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GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by notRobot »

qurren wrote: post #48
theandrewbailey wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I got a new phone last year, I purposely got a Pixel (open box 9a) to put GrapheneOS on it immediately. Been happy living the de-Googled Android life since. I was sad that I had to go through the OOBE setup on the stock image to unlock the bootloader. At least it doesn't force an internet connection and login, unlike Windows.

Is it possible to install basic Google apps like Gmail, Calendar, Maps, Drive without googlifying the whole phone? I'm not looking to fully de-Google but I want Google as apps and not my OS.

Yes, you can have sandboxed Google apps: https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by mcsniff »

Cider9986 wrote: post #42
kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #36

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I have these cards I keep in my (RFID-blocking) wallet, one for each credit account. Then I just pull them out and tap to pay. It's super convenient - no app required!

What does RFID-blocking wallet do?

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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by drnick1 »

mvdtnz wrote: post #14
jordand wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only silver lining to this is they run a lot of discounts and promotions on them, and it's possible to buy them at a significant discount. Got my first Pixel 10 on a very cheap contract with trade-in promos on top, and got a second Pixel 10 at a 70% discount from the RRP.

It's not possible to buy them at all where I live, even if I wanted to funnel money to Google - which I do not. I have gone to great lengths to de-Google my life.

Soon, there will be compatible Motorola phones.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by hxorr »

qurren wrote: post #48
theandrewbailey wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I got a new phone last year, I purposely got a Pixel (open box 9a) to put GrapheneOS on it immediately. Been happy living the de-Googled Android life since. I was sad that I had to go through the OOBE setup on the stock image to unlock the bootloader. At least it doesn't force an internet connection and login, unlike Windows.

Is it possible to install basic Google apps like Gmail, Calendar, Maps, Drive without googlifying the whole phone? I'm not looking to fully de-Google but I want Google as apps and not my OS.

I believe one of Graphene OS's main features is that they allow you to run google play services in a sandboxed environment, so you can run your standard google apps but without the standard android deal where google play services has unfetteted access to all your phone's location/data/etc info

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by hiitsmyaccount »

qurren wrote: post #48
theandrewbailey wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I got a new phone last year, I purposely got a Pixel (open box 9a) to put GrapheneOS on it immediately. Been happy living the de-Googled Android life since. I was sad that I had to go through the OOBE setup on the stock image to unlock the bootloader. At least it doesn't force an internet connection and login, unlike Windows.

Is it possible to install basic Google apps like Gmail, Calendar, Maps, Drive without googlifying the whole phone? I'm not looking to fully de-Google but I want Google as apps and not my OS.

Yes, you install the Google Play store via the GrapheneOS App Store. The OS comes with like 5 apps out of the box. The rest is up to you.

Biggest caveats that I've encountered: tap to pay via Google Wallet is a no go, Android Auto can be flaky, MDM managed work profiles don't work at the moment, and some apps that use the Google Play integrity API fail to validate and refuse to work (I've only encountered one app that fails, and plenty others that work.)

In general, I'm moving towards a de-Googled life and GrapheneOS is a great entrypoint towards that.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by RachelF »

jordand wrote: post #12

I've been running GrapheneOS for 7 months now and I'm not going back. When I bought my Pixel 10 last year, I wasn't actually planning on trying Graphene for a while....until I noticed Google had force bundled a 'Wicked For Good' movie promo theme with the latest security update.

I too, liked it.

However, some apps that I need for work, like Microsoft Authenticator, no longer work under GrapheneOS.

https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/03/10/microsoft-tig...

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by drnick1 »

boldlybold wrote: post #47
mvdtnz wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not possible to buy them at all where I live, even if I wanted to funnel money to Google - which I do not. I have gone to great lengths to de-Google my life.

Ebay? A friend to ship it? I agree on the de-google part but putting graphene on a used pixel is aligned!

Absolutely, and it is irrational to refuse to buy hardware from Google (which, with Graphene, is under your control) when the alternative is to either run a Google OS on a third party phone (and give up control of the software), or Apple (equally bad), or some impractical and less secure alternative like a Linux phone incompatible with Android apps.

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by Cider9986 »

725686 wrote: post #49
Cider9986 wrote: post #10

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To get a sense of the project and its goals I recommend reading this post[1]. Buying a used Pixel is economical, environmental, and likely doesn't support Google. Pixels are the only secure and open android devices that could work for the project and meet the extensive requirements[2]. This is because GrapheneOS takes real steps to protect user privacy and security, not features that degrade security and don't increa…

Motorola is not mentioned in any of the links.

third link

Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17

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Post by ebbi »

Cider9986 wrote: post #46

I've been thinking it might be worthwhile to showcase that you can make GrapheneOS look beautiful or the same as stock Pixel UI. When I was considering switching from iPhone I had this misconception that it would look ugly or wouldn't look the same as Pixel UI, which is not the case at all. When I asked about it I wasn't given this clearcut answer that you can make GrapheneOS UI look the same or better than Pixel UI.

How much flexibility is there in changing appearance?

As an iPhone user, I really like what Oppo is doing with their ColorOS: https://www.oppo.com/nz/coloros16/

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