What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.
GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
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Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#22permanent reminder that graphene and all other "alternatives to android" depend on extracted binary blobs. tons of them. which is the reason new (kernel) versions are such a chore/achievement.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#23The post doesn't say - what's new? Anything to look forward to besides the security patches for A17 being available for longer than they will be for A16? Asking as an A11 user who will probably soon need to switch to a new device. I haven't noticed anything on other people's phones that isn't available on mine, including on my work phone that runs an up-to-date GrapheneOS (but I don't need to do much more than callin…
Desktop mode is new and exciting.
This should have the full list; it's not a ton of changes, which speaks to how perfected Android has become.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17...
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#24What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.
Putting my credit card in my phone case
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#25I've been using Graphene on my Pixel 7a for about a year and I'm happy I made the switch. For sure it is a bit rougher than using Google's OS, but not enough to make me regret it. The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, and (2) the texting app doesn't just attach reaction emojis to a message -- it quotes the whole message…
> The main things I miss are (1) when I'm entering text I can't swipe left and right on the space bar to scroll the cursor left and right, GrapheneOS is compatible with the vast , vast majority of Android apps, so you can use GBoard or FUTO keyboard (which I recently switched to from GBoard), to get the ideal experience. FUTO recently revamped their swipe to type model and it's now more accurate than GBoard in their…
Yes! FUTO keyboard, then go into VOICE INPUT → MODELS → Explore Voice Input Models → English-244: “Best for the most accurate results, but more demanding.”
The voice recognition is built on Whisper, and is amazing. You can speak conversationally for a long time and it gets everything right, with smart decisions based on context.
My stupid thumbs text no more.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#26What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.
Garmin pay if you're ok with Garmin is one possibility.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#27What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.
I don't. GrapheneOS is worth the effort of pulling a card out of my wallet.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#28What are North American people doing for replacing contactless payment? Last time I checked, the solution was to use Curve but it only works for Europe.
I'm in Europe, but I had accepted that I had to do without. I hadn't heard of curve, going to check that out.
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#29The post doesn't say - what's new? Anything to look forward to besides the security patches for A17 being available for longer than they will be for A16? Asking as an A11 user who will probably soon need to switch to a new device. I haven't noticed anything on other people's phones that isn't available on mine, including on my work phone that runs an up-to-date GrapheneOS (but I don't need to do much more than callin…
Presumably any new Android 17 features that aren't counter to GrapheneOS's mission, such as "Bubbles allows you to turn any app into a compact, floating window" https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android...
Re: GrapheneOS has been ported to Android 17
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to dread the promised deep system integration of AI, but honestly after setting Claude up on a server box and having it do sysadmin stuff for me that I've been putting off for ages I see the vision. I don't really want to mess with the details of working through system orchestration tasks, I want to say "spin up this service" and start using it, "change my config so X happens" and it does, and knows what needs…
The vendors are never going to give you control over your computer no matter what vision they try to sell you on. The whole point, from their perspective, is to use their control of your computer to gain more control over you, which they hope to then exploit for profit.
Right: Look at the ways Google has persistently taken away user-control and autonomy on the OS level.
Why would we expect the same company to exhibit a completely opposite philosophy as they add LLM features?