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Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Another entry in the 'Black' villain line, along with BlackStone, BlackRock, BlackWater etc ... really makes you think the world is run by a thinly veiled cult of evil comic style villains.

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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>Sure someome will argue things here get flagged cause they are political, but I don't buy that. Are you saying that this isn't political? It's literally about politics. The comments section will be predictable and it will be flagged for that. Do you disagree?

> Are you saying that this isn't political? It's literally about politics. Sure it's about politics, but it's also about tech. The intersection of politics and tech is a fascinating area, of great interest to many folks on HN, and probably within HN's charter. I think that merely touching on politics should not be grounds for flagging a submission, even when the specifics are highly controversial (as in this case).

>Sure it's about politics, but it's also about tech.

Can you point me how was the tech used in this article about *tech* and politics. I didn't see anything.

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This person is either willfully ignorant, or an actual fascist attempting to blur the line. This exact line of thought has been used for decades to subvert the actual history of the Nazi party and their co-operation with corporations, undermining of labor unions, assault on socialist groups via their brown shirts, etc. This is a fascist talking point. It doesn't matter where the user possibly derived it from. The "Na…

That is a lot of assumptions and personal attacks based on a question that you haven't answered.

The soviets also actively clamped down on unions, were they not socialists either?

Edit: I'll let someone else make the point for me:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4kg34a/comme...

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Regardless of what good things other Israeli companies might be doing, it's clear that the Israeli government doesn't have a problem with these malware / spyware companies.

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Israel is committing a genocide. This is undisputed at good point. The way I’m reading your comment is justifying that the genocide is necessary for Israel’s survival. If that is where the pendulum is today, there’s no discussion to be had.

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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> Are you saying that this isn't political? It's literally about politics. Sure it's about politics, but it's also about tech. The intersection of politics and tech is a fascinating area, of great interest to many folks on HN, and probably within HN's charter. I think that merely touching on politics should not be grounds for flagging a submission, even when the specifics are highly controversial (as in this case).

>Sure it's about politics, but it's also about tech. Can you point me how was the tech used in this article about *tech* and politics. I didn't see anything.

Ctrl-F "digital"

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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This person is either willfully ignorant, or an actual fascist attempting to blur the line. This exact line of thought has been used for decades to subvert the actual history of the Nazi party and their co-operation with corporations, undermining of labor unions, assault on socialist groups via their brown shirts, etc. This is a fascist talking point. It doesn't matter where the user possibly derived it from. The "Na…

That is a lot of assumptions and personal attacks based on a question that you haven't answered. The soviets also actively clamped down on unions, were they not socialists either? Edit: I'll let someone else make the point for me: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4kg34a/comme...

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” - Jean-Paul Sartre

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Russians do not do that. It is contrary to our culture. There was a lord (knyaz) in old times who even warned enemies that he is going to attack them. Of course it is not as advantageous as a covert approach. But it is very Russian. When you hear otherwise it is those other entities targeting you, that's all.

Games three-letter agencies play are the same everywhere and have zero relation to the culture. 2016 meddling did happen of course. It was also negligible and led to a huge overreaction, extremely similar to the US meddling in Russian elections in 1996 where Clinton admin indirectly prevented Nemtsov from running by supporting unpopular Yeltsin (and NGOs did a ton of "work" which barely affected anything, the main reason Yeltsin won was Filatov running the campaign, oversized spending and collusion with the media aka Xerox affair, and the "admin resource" he had).

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Last time I suggested on a similar story that there's a disproportionate number of firms in Israel with an explicit focus on subversion, manipulation, spying and malware, seemingly because a large portion of the Israeli population gain a certain expertise in these fields as part of serving in the IDF and working to suppress Palestinians, I got accused of bias because apparently there's many more Israeli startups work…

Israeli here - I'll try to write this the least political as I can since I on one hand disagree strongly with the government and on the other my experience has been getting antisemstic (yes, not anti-zionist) comments whenever this gets discussed a lot (and likely downvotes but who cares I've been here 10 years and have more fake points than is important anyway). Israel has several "cores" of technology. The military…

What is shameful about the "military stuff"? Isn't that's what is protecting you from your neighbors and their patron?

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Israel is committing a genocide. This is undisputed at good point. The way I’m reading your comment is justifying that the genocide is necessary for Israel’s survival. If that is where the pendulum is today, there’s no discussion to be had.

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I’m not going to argue with you.

I’m going to leave a comment for others to inform themselves that you’re wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

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