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Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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The Nazis did a ton of cutting edge research too.

Did they? Like, which exactly?

The Z3 was a German electromechanical computer designed by Konrad Zuse in 1938, and completed in 1941. It was the world's first working programmable, fully automatic digital computer. [c] Wikipedia

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> I think it's important to note that the Israeli government does work very hard to conflate Zionism with Judaism, (which itself seems antisemitic to me), making it harder for some to separate the two. Yes, they are trying their hardest with their actions to fuel a new way of antisemitism. Turns out if you are a religious fundamental colony that occupies territory based on the bible, that gives bad rap to the whole r…

Except Zionism is not religious. It is a modern secular nationalist ideology rooted in ethnicity, shared ancestry, history, culture, and language. Indeed, socialism dominated Zionism for a long time. Many if not most Israelis are not religious, and traditionally, religious Jews (especially the Orthodox; an extreme case is Neturei Karta) oppose Zionism and the State of Israel as a secular ersatz, believing that they m…

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I don’t know man, never heard about Finnish people decimating a population, starving kids, subverting countries, toppling governments... I’ve been in Finland last year and they’re so nice.

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Not to get into an argument, but most of the population in the Middle East are Muslim who don't give two shits who killed Jesus because they don't believe he was killed to begin with.

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> It's not based on the Bible, it's based on where we know for a fact people actually lived under the Roman empire. If not just speculation based on a 4000 year-old mythical text, it's literal documented history. It's the invocation of a 'promised land', which even Israeli government officials use as a justification for their actions, that is based on (a reading of) the Bible, despite Israel being nominally a secular…

There's plenty of room for debate about the legitimacy of Zionism, and about what (and when) a "return to Zion" should be. Such debate has been carried out vigorously for 200 years. But it has to start from agreement on basic historical facts, and rejection of non-facts founded in bigotry.

Israeli government officials are politicians and vary in perspective, but by and large the Israeli government is a big part of the "nasty colonial racist" part. Their perspective exists but is not authoritative, and it is becoming increasingly unpopular around the world (including among Jews).

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Your PM Netanyahu is a disaster. Your religious hardliners seem to love him. Even someone neutral to sympathetic can’t help but look on in disgust at your PM and his supporters. Edit: The point being that it tarnishes everything that Israel does, and makes fault-finding way too easy.

Let's not pin it all on Netanyuhu, he is a good representation of his society.

It is an indisputable fact that when polled, most Israelis openly support genocide.

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Your PM Netanyahu is a disaster. Your religious hardliners seem to love him. Even someone neutral to sympathetic can’t help but look on in disgust at your PM and his supporters. Edit: The point being that it tarnishes everything that Israel does, and makes fault-finding way too easy.

Let's not pin it all on Netanyuhu, he is a good representation of his society.

Touche

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There are three options: 1. Israel is doing this in an outsized way compared to everyone else 2. Israel is extremely poor at doing it because it keeps getting caught 3. All the reporting is controlled by the antisemitic media conglomerates ruled by a shadowy council funded by Qatari money I expect you to deny 1, 2 is an impossibility to you, 3 is the most likely I'd hear even though it's highly reminiscent of somethi…

False trichotomy 4. Small amount of people make sure to look and echo everything that paint Israel in bad light and this work, we know this work because this entire post is about a company (small amount of people) influencing New York and Scotland votes.

Also it is entirely possible all 1+2+4 hold

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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I confused BlackCore with Black Cube, a different Israeli private oppo research and dirty tricks group of former intelligence agents. They gained attention for their dirty campaigns against Harvey Weinstein's accusers, NSOs critics and Hungarian opposition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Cube

Not to be confused with Blackrock or Blackstone, both large American investment companies with their own shady operations.

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There's a lot of offensive security talent, but this has nothing to do with Palestinians. Israeli intelligence is very advanced and is why Israel has been able to eliminate the leaders of Hezbollah and Iran. Not everything in Israel is about or related to Palestinians. The Palestinian bias only exists in circles where every thought regarding Israel is immediately evoking a Palestinian connotation. In reality, most Is…

> There's a lot of offensive security talent, but this has nothing to do with Palestinians. Israeli intelligence is very advanced and is why Israel has been able to eliminate the leaders of Hezbollah and Iran. Not everything in Israel is about or related to Palestinians. I would suggest to you that the focus on Iran is because Iran is perceived as being an obstacle to Israeli hegemony in the region and thus undispute…

> over Palestinian territory

This could mean anything from a couple of ghettos to all of the modern state of Israel depending on what you think Palestinian territory is or should be.

If you take the approach that all of it is Palestinian territory and the state of Israel shouldn't exist, then yeah, sure? that's different from the assertion that all of the intelligence related businesses in Israel are founded because of direct experience in conflict with the Palestinian people.

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