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Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by HappyPanacea »

bradleyjg wrote: post #85
inglor wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israeli here - I'll try to write this the least political as I can since I on one hand disagree strongly with the government and on the other my experience has been getting antisemstic (yes, not anti-zionist) comments whenever this gets discussed a lot (and likely downvotes but who cares I've been here 10 years and have more fake points than is important anyway). Israel has several "cores" of technology. The military…

No one has ever called me a kike or Christ killer. No one has ever accused me of controlling the media or banks. No one has spray painted a swastika on my house, or my synagogue for that matter. My nation, the most powerful in the world, puts a menorah in its halls of government every year for Hanukkah. The legislative and judicial branches have Jewish members at the very top level. The head of government has a Jewis…

> My nation, the most powerful in the world,

USA?

> Yet, listen to Zionists and I’m practically living in Weimar Germany. That dog won’t hunt.

Yeah this is so detached from reality I have to ask how you arrived at this conclusion and consider reexamining the way you consume information. Both in my own personal impression and according ADL global index USA's antisemitism is a low. Because "Zionists" have pro-Israel bias they will perceive any one who support Israel positively, and no one support Israel more than USA, so they will likely view USA as positive further lessening negtive views.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by nobodyandproud »

inglor wrote: post #37
Matl wrote: post #31

Last time I suggested on a similar story that there's a disproportionate number of firms in Israel with an explicit focus on subversion, manipulation, spying and malware, seemingly because a large portion of the Israeli population gain a certain expertise in these fields as part of serving in the IDF and working to suppress Palestinians, I got accused of bias because apparently there's many more Israeli startups work…

Israeli here - I'll try to write this the least political as I can since I on one hand disagree strongly with the government and on the other my experience has been getting antisemstic (yes, not anti-zionist) comments whenever this gets discussed a lot (and likely downvotes but who cares I've been here 10 years and have more fake points than is important anyway). Israel has several "cores" of technology. The military…

Your PM Netanyahu is a disaster. Your religious hardliners seem to love him.

Even someone neutral to sympathetic can’t help but look on in disgust at your PM and his supporters.

Edit: The point being that it tarnishes everything that Israel does, and makes fault-finding way too easy.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm »

RobotToaster wrote: post #72
pipes wrote: post #58

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Rockets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun He later worked at NASA.

Don't say that he's hypocritical Say rather that he's apolitical "Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department!" says Wernher von Braun

This is fantastic. This is what I'm going to say next time I work on military tech.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by Matl »

gwerbin wrote: post #88
4gotunameagain wrote: post #62

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> I think it's important to note that the Israeli government does work very hard to conflate Zionism with Judaism, (which itself seems antisemitic to me), making it harder for some to separate the two. Yes, they are trying their hardest with their actions to fuel a new way of antisemitism. Turns out if you are a religious fundamental colony that occupies territory based on the bible, that gives bad rap to the whole r…

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> It's not based on the Bible, it's based on where we know for a fact people actually lived under the Roman empire. If not just speculation based on a 4000 year-old mythical text, it's literal documented history.

It's the invocation of a 'promised land', which even Israeli government officials use as a justification for their actions, that is based on (a reading of) the Bible, despite Israel being nominally a secular country.

I don't think many dispute there was a significant population of Jews within the Roman Empire, many of which lived in the rough geographical area of present day Israel.

I am not sure how any sort of present day 'inherent right' stems from that.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by bflesch »

mentalgear wrote: post #42

Another entry in the 'Black' villain line, along with BlackStone, BlackRock, BlackWater etc ... really makes you think the world is run by a thinly veiled cult of evil comic style villains.

Black, like Leon Black of Epstein fame

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by magic_hamster »

Matl wrote: post #31

Last time I suggested on a similar story that there's a disproportionate number of firms in Israel with an explicit focus on subversion, manipulation, spying and malware, seemingly because a large portion of the Israeli population gain a certain expertise in these fields as part of serving in the IDF and working to suppress Palestinians, I got accused of bias because apparently there's many more Israeli startups work…

There's a lot of offensive security talent, but this has nothing to do with Palestinians. Israeli intelligence is very advanced and is why Israel has been able to eliminate the leaders of Hezbollah and Iran.

Not everything in Israel is about or related to Palestinians. The Palestinian bias only exists in circles where every thought regarding Israel is immediately evoking a Palestinian connotation. In reality, most Israelis never interact with Palestinians.

To suggest that a sector of Israeli startups exists on the experience of people "suppressing Palestinians" is definitely biased, absurd, and is a slippery slope.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by yesbabyyes »

watwut wrote: post #51
ai_fry_ur_brain wrote: post #43

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The Nazis did a ton of cutting edge research too.

Did they? Like, which exactly?

Apart from other mentions, they also did cutting edge research on nuclear power and weapons. Some of the scientists understood how massive an undertaking that was, however the political leadership apparently did not, or the world would look different today.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by bflesch »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #30
Zealotux wrote: post #2

The israeli ambassador in France should already have been kicked out a while ago for a myriad of reasons, I'm ashamed my country is so spineless.

Europeans couldn't even get Israel out of a silly pop song contest, so it seems a bit hopeless to expect any actual political action.

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by magic_hamster »

Hikikomori wrote: post #92
breppp wrote: post #74

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I am an Israeli and though I dislike this certain brand of companies and would never work in one, I am not sure this is strictly bad. I assume these were hired by a local candidate (unless someone can think who has a deep interest in French municipal elections) Currently the only actors who use fake social accounts for election manipulation are the Russians, Chinese, Iran and Qatar. The west is completely powerless i…

Israel just buys the political support in the open instead.

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

#110

Post by aaomidi »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #98
Lucasoato wrote: post #96

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I don’t know man, never heard about Finnish people decimating a population, starving kids, subverting countries, toppling governments... I’ve been in Finland last year and they’re so nice.

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Israel is committing a genocide. This is undisputed at good point.

The way I’m reading your comment is justifying that the genocide is necessary for Israel’s survival.

If that is where the pendulum is today, there’s no discussion to be had.

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