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AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models

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Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models

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post #81

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I know the only reason we are using Claude right now in my large org was because of this policy and another model would have been picked otherwise

A model that opens the slightest gap for a leak would be unacceptable to the org I work for. We are very paranoid about losing vulnerable customers' data.

Anthropic has all the answers for that. You’ll go through some compliance exercises and classify them as a subprocessor of highest tier of data sensitivity.

Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models

#102

Note that if you use AWS Bedrock then you're choosing to pay 10X to 20X because you trust AWS more than Anthropic. It is literally 10X to 20-X cheaper to directly buy Anthropic subscriptions for your devs.

Pro/max subs are not as flexible as bedrock in api use and don’t seem to run the same models either - often times they are notably dumber (quantized I guess) than bedrock equivalent.

Huh, I felt the inverse.

Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models

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post #69
post #34

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It looks like they’ve been preparing: https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/aws/bedrock-openai-models

> For OpenAI GPT-5.4 and GPT-5.5, classifier-flagged traffic will be retained for up to 30 days for automated offline abuse detection. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/bedrock/latest/userguide/abuse-d...

It is only abuse flagged data and there too for OpenAI they're not sharing that data with them. But for Anthropic they are.

Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models

#106

This is odd behaviour, and provides some evidence that Anthropic isn't being managed by serious people. With this policy across AWS/GH/Zed/etc, they're taking their massive lead in enterprise/govt sales and handing it to any competitor who can serve a model anywhere near these capabilities with a modestly nice UI.

They are betting that without a competitor distilling their most powerful models, they can stay ahead far enough and long enough that people will accept this.

Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models

#107
post #87

This smells like an advanced version of corporate espionage. Assuming most companies will use their AI in the future, this will be fed directly to an Echelon-like network that will be leaking "interesting info" to friendly parties, like the Boeing vs Airbus scandal that was first widely reported and then swept under the rug officially.

Smells more like a secret agreement with the government.

Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models

#108

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Is it a larger model or just better trained? Anthropic does not actually claim it is a larger model anywhere that I can see.

If it’s not larger, it’d be tough to justify the massive price increase for using it.

Opus 4.7 was smaller and people still paid 4.6 prices.

gpt-5.5 isn't larger than gpt-5.4 but costs double.

Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models

#109

This is odd behaviour, and provides some evidence that Anthropic isn't being managed by serious people. With this policy across AWS/GH/Zed/etc, they're taking their massive lead in enterprise/govt sales and handing it to any competitor who can serve a model anywhere near these capabilities with a modestly nice UI.

Every one of the competitors capable of a similar model have been salivating for a long time at the idea of consensual data sharing. Anthropic just opened the door for everyone to do the same thing without having to deal with being the first to do so. My bet is that OpenAI etc’s next model will have these same requirements.

Ever since the Mythos announcement it’s been clear that we’re heading towards a future where SOTA models are no longer available to the average person, and not only cost more, but also require payment in the form of use case verification and data sharing. OpenAI’s 5.5-Cyber model requires the same, so it’s not just Anthropic.

We’re unhappy with this because we’ve all gotten used to being able to play with the new shiny model as soon as it’s available, but what I’m seeing in this thread about Anthropic being “stupid” is emotion-based wishful thinking.

Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models

#110

Ugh. I'm sure we're not the only company that's going to face the difficult decision to either stay with Opus 4.8, switch to a different model provider or update and significantly weaken our terms of service around no model re-training, not sending data to third parties and the like. I understand why Anthropic wants to do this but I'd be much more comfortable with it if the data never made it to Anthropic unless an a…

Can you explain what AWS supposedly guarantees currently that your company values? I am not super familiar with the platform but I would assume, just like any other US company, that they will provide data to US agencies upon legal request as per CLOUD act, regardless of place of storage etc.
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