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I know the only reason we are using Claude right now in my large org was because of this policy and another model would have been picked otherwise
A model that opens the slightest gap for a leak would be unacceptable to the org I work for. We are very paranoid about losing vulnerable customers' data.
AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
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Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#102Note that if you use AWS Bedrock then you're choosing to pay 10X to 20X because you trust AWS more than Anthropic. It is literally 10X to 20-X cheaper to directly buy Anthropic subscriptions for your devs.
Pro/max subs are not as flexible as bedrock in api use and don’t seem to run the same models either - often times they are notably dumber (quantized I guess) than bedrock equivalent.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
It looks like they’ve been preparing: https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/aws/bedrock-openai-models
> For OpenAI GPT-5.4 and GPT-5.5, classifier-flagged traffic will be retained for up to 30 days for automated offline abuse detection. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/bedrock/latest/userguide/abuse-d...
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
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#10560 days.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#106This is odd behaviour, and provides some evidence that Anthropic isn't being managed by serious people. With this policy across AWS/GH/Zed/etc, they're taking their massive lead in enterprise/govt sales and handing it to any competitor who can serve a model anywhere near these capabilities with a modestly nice UI.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#107This smells like an advanced version of corporate espionage. Assuming most companies will use their AI in the future, this will be fed directly to an Echelon-like network that will be leaking "interesting info" to friendly parties, like the Boeing vs Airbus scandal that was first widely reported and then swept under the rug officially.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
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Is it a larger model or just better trained? Anthropic does not actually claim it is a larger model anywhere that I can see.
If it’s not larger, it’d be tough to justify the massive price increase for using it.
gpt-5.5 isn't larger than gpt-5.4 but costs double.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#109This is odd behaviour, and provides some evidence that Anthropic isn't being managed by serious people. With this policy across AWS/GH/Zed/etc, they're taking their massive lead in enterprise/govt sales and handing it to any competitor who can serve a model anywhere near these capabilities with a modestly nice UI.
Ever since the Mythos announcement it’s been clear that we’re heading towards a future where SOTA models are no longer available to the average person, and not only cost more, but also require payment in the form of use case verification and data sharing. OpenAI’s 5.5-Cyber model requires the same, so it’s not just Anthropic.
We’re unhappy with this because we’ve all gotten used to being able to play with the new shiny model as soon as it’s available, but what I’m seeing in this thread about Anthropic being “stupid” is emotion-based wishful thinking.
Re: AWS Bedrock to require sharing data with Anthropic for Mythos and future models
#110Ugh. I'm sure we're not the only company that's going to face the difficult decision to either stay with Opus 4.8, switch to a different model provider or update and significantly weaken our terms of service around no model re-training, not sending data to third parties and the like. I understand why Anthropic wants to do this but I'd be much more comfortable with it if the data never made it to Anthropic unless an a…