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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #252
VariousPrograms wrote: post #4

I'm done for once the authorities know I have an account on HACKER News.

True story: my house (in Australia) was raided by the police in 2022. 8 months later when they said I could collect all the gear they seized the officer in charge told me that the following are things they consider to be suspicious: 1. Use of MEGA (it's apparently used to share CSAM) 2. Use of virtual machines 3. "Having Tor on my computer" (I had to put that in quotes because whilst it doesn't make sense, that's wha…

Everyone should encrypt their hard drive. At all times. Even if your country has password disclosure it forces them to get a warrant from a judge for your password and the worst case is the same as the best case from not encrypting it.

MEGA is indeed used to share CSAM and pirate stuff. That is its primary use actually but it's one of those institutions that maintains plausible deniability. Remember it was started after MegaUpload was shut down for being obviously designed to reward copyright infringement - the new one isn't obviously designed for that

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

eesmith wrote: post #368
VortexLain wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could have told the guard you're going to a competitive programming contest.

It was a non-competitive hackathon - different groups working on related project s get together to promote inter-group relationships.

Programming conference

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by dmitrygr »

trumpdong wrote: post #387
dmitrygr wrote: post #356

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I have really, really, really bad news for you about any modern SoC, including all those by Qualcomm. Their ROM private keys are widely available to the three letter agencies. Your OS, while cute, provides no protection at all to anyone who has physical access. Secure boot root keys give away the whole kingdom

The disk is encrypted. They might be able to install a backdoor but they can't get the data.

Backdoored OS installed. Device returned. Wait.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

eunos wrote: post #293
afavour wrote: post #273

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Well yeah, because they block outside social media networks…

The point is they don't care my yap on my social media unlike the other nation across the pond

They give lighter censorship to foreigners (e.g allowing more VPNs) to lighten the image they get of the country.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by eesmith »

trumpdong wrote: post #402
eesmith wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a non-competitive hackathon - different groups working on related project s get together to promote inter-group relationships.

Programming conference

Sure. I had something like that planned. But that doesn't change the title of the event.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

somewhatgoated wrote: post #272
minraws wrote: post #113

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Not true the part about China, but yes Western countries do like to pretend they have a lot more freedom than they do. If you can't criticize or protest Xi in China, try criticize or protesting the laws in rest of the world. Especially the things they do in the name of privacy, I remember UK jailing folks for FB posts, that's stuff that happens in third world countries. Not that UK ever had much of a leg to stand on,…

Idk I went to probably dozens of public protests here screaming no justice no peace, fuck the police and nothing ever happened to me, except a little tear-gas once in a while. I might be on some secret police lists not sure. Living in Germany so UK might be much worse for all I know , but I would be surprised if Germany is the shining paragon for democracy now.

Germany tends to allow protests they know will have no effect. Try a Palestine protest - those are more dangerous to the regime. Also take note of the ratio of cops to protestors.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

xg15 wrote: post #237
devsda wrote: post #155

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The goal is to normalize the usage of alternative OS. The moment you find workarounds and not question, you accept their position and eventually you'll run out of workarounds. 'you can still do X through Y, they are not removing it' is a popular and often the top reply on posts related to companies tightening their walled gardens. It gives an immediate solution to the problem but it doesn't address the core issue. I…

Maybe the whole age verification push will change that discussion, if suddenly requests for entire categories of services have to be funneled through a small number of age verification providers that intentionally try to block alternative OSes. The discussion might have been mostly theoretical before, but it sure isn't anymore...

Sue whoever blocked your device. I was about to consider it for my bank but an update enabled Graphene. Now it thinks my other phone is insecure and won't let me log in on that one, heh.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

somewhatgoated wrote: post #286
trumpdong wrote: post #150

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TPB is the worst piracy site now by the way. It's full of fake uploads should never be used. There are many others with better curation.

I hear that often but I have yet to find any issues with it. Maybe I’m too niche or not niche enough to run into issues. I also never download software from any site like this so maybe that’s it.

Even so, have a look around, there are better sites.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by cassianoleal »

trumpdong wrote: post #379
cassianoleal wrote: post #300

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> the worst they can do is kick them out of the EU As opposed to what? Armed invasion?

Yes. The EU has no army, no legal sovereignty within each country, etc. It's an alliance of countries NOT a single federal government. The individual countries remain in charge of themselves and the alliance is supposed to be structured in a way that only paases things the countries actually want.

So you think it would be better if the EU started a war with a member state that failed to uphold the union's laws?

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by ben_w »

diordiderot wrote: post #355
ben_w wrote: post #336

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Have you considered doing the same in reverse? Because sure, if you look at the right parts of the US, you can find zero homicide rate due to there not being any residents. You can also do this in Europe. It tells you nothing. What may give you a hint about relative safety is that the UK police don't bother with being regularly equipped with firearms, because they don't need to be .

Side note, UK police harass people for 'non-crime hate incidents' and put people on terror lists for being critical of protected ideologies. Judges give longer sentences for mean tweets than hoarding child pornography or months long torture and rape of children. More euros die of heat stroke than Americans die from gun violence. Edit: NHS waitlists are double digit months to years. You have one of the worst birthing…

> Side note, UK police harass people for 'non-crime hate incidents' and put people on terror lists for being critical of protected ideologies.

The US has recently declared being "anti-fascist" as a terror organisation. Bonus points: antifa isn't even an organisation.

> Judges give longer sentences for mean tweets than hoarding child pornography or months long torture and rape of children.

Citation needed.

> More euros die of heat stroke than Americans die from gun violence.

Yes, gun violence is grossly overrepresented in the fears of most people, compared to how big the risks actually are.

And yet, the life expectancy in the US (79.3) is younger than EU as a whole (81.7), and also in the UK (81.3).

> Edit: NHS waitlists are double digit months to years. You have one of the worst birthing outcomes in the OECD. You have relatively poor cancer treatment outcomes

Given the US has the lower life expectancy, this is unfortunate… for you, not for everyone else.

Also, for birthing outcomes, the phrase "throwing stones in glass houses" comes to mind:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/child-mortality?time=2001...

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