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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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You will need to explain this in more detail so people without racial prejudice can understand why someone's race impacts their ability to do a certain job. If they were not white, you would still have to claim there is discrimination? Or do you believe that non whites are inherently better at policing? Unclear. Also, in the UK there has been central directives to discriminate in favour of ethnic minorities for nearl…

It's really not that complicated. If we have fewer non-white police officers, our ability to keep the whole of our (gratefully diverse) population safe is at a disadvantage. We need a police force that accurately represents the full range of diversity in our country. Occasionally members of the police force will f*k up badly. This is a fact. In the case of Henry Nowak, a police officer made an incredibly bad call and…

No-one cares about your opinion (or mine).

You have misunderstood my point entirely.

Being non-white does not mean they are able to do their job better. That is a racist belief.

The police in this case were white. But they were acting on policies which require them to treat non-white members of the public differently. It is nothing to do with diversity. Unless you are a racist, diversity is not an end in itself. No-one is making self-important statements about changing society. They just want the police to do their job correctly. If someone is stabbed, they shouldn't arrest them because their policy dictates that non-whites are rarely suspects in crimes.

The peak of luxury beliefs is to believe that people performing vital jobs that may involve life or death should perform that job in a way to achieve abstract social goals in order to make individuals feel better about "society".

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. I won't be visiting. Despite many flaws, the US has some damn good rights for its citizens compared to the rest of the world.

> Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. This is precisely the reason why I don't want to visit the US at the moment. The USA immigration officers can ask me to forfeit my phone's password and look at all my photos, documents, messages, call logs etc, WITHOUT SUSPICION. Some of that data can even stay on their servers for decades, and who knows if i…

What happens if you send the phone by mail?

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Non-crime hate incidents 1) never lead to people being charged, and 2) recording of them has been greatly reformed following a court ruling and new legislation I agree there are a lot of problems (e.g. the online safety Act) but it look as though both the rest of Europe and the rest of the west is going the same way. I also assume this incident was not in the UK as the details were shared on imgur which blocks the UK…

Yep but they live with you for life on a DBS check, and you know that we brought up in a court of law if anything else happens to be against your favor

1. That is one reason why the rules were changed to reduce the level of recoding

2. It would only be disclosed on an enhanced DBS check, not basic or standard. This also applies to all other information the police have on you, not just NCHIs. This is just like the rules for disclosing something like a caution issued to someone in your household, an aquittal, allegations made against you, parking and speeding tickets etc.

"Non-crime information can be disclosed on an enhanced DBS check – which is limited to high-risk positions like teachers and carers – but only with the approval of a chief officer. The chief officer must have regard to statutory guidance issued by the Home Office and consider whether the applicant should be allowed to make representations before any information is disclosed."

https://www.college.police.uk/article/protecting-freedom-exp...

It is illegal to request a higher level of check than the guidance allows for a particular role.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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I bet they would count that as a attempted fraud.

It depends on what you're trying to do with it, right? If I have my browser spoof it's useragent to say it's firefox when it's chrome, is that fraud? At what point are we saying something is fraud and at what point are we just trying to avoid needless fingerprinting in apps/operating systems/whatever else? If you're using any type of adblock in your browser, you're essentially spoofing countless systems just to have…

AIUI if they decide members of a category receive some tangible benefit, so you fake being in that category and get the benefit, it's technically criminal fraud.

Sibling comment says running this simple curl command would be illegal. Guess what? It is illegal.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Someone in the comments of that post linked to a long FAQ section for GrapheneOS about how apps can identify it and so forth [1]. I don't understand why it doesn't just attempt to spoof that's it's stock Android/Google everywhere it possibly can? [1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#:~:text=Apps%20can%20detect%20tha...

The goal is to normalize the usage of alternative OS. The moment you find workarounds and not question, you accept their position and eventually you'll run out of workarounds.

'you can still do X through Y, they are not removing it' is a popular and often the top reply on posts related to companies tightening their walled gardens. It gives an immediate solution to the problem but it doesn't address the core issue. I wish that wasn't the case.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

Watching all UK folks in denial is too funny.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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The US has a good constitution but worse policing.

What good is a piece of paper? I have nice toilet paper. It doesn't make me safer when visiting the US.

The entire point of a constitution is that, unlike toilet paper, it can be enforced by the courts.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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This isn't how the UK works. There is a vast ecosystem of pre-crime authorities and the police are able to investigate things which aren't crimes and add "non-crime" incidents to your criminal record. It may not surprise you to learn that almost all of the cases in which this is used are "social" crimes. In cases of actual crime, custodial sentences are sometimes not applied at all...again, usually for reasons of soc…

All sharing sites are not blocked, postimg and Reddit image hosting and Flickr and many more are not blocked. The uk didn’t block sharing sites because of a threat to the social order, sharing sites blocked uk viewers because they don’t want to comply with uk laws like “don’t gather children’s personal data”. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gzxv5gy3qo

I'm pretty sure it was in protest of a law saying they'd have to check everyone's ID. The BBC, being incredibly biased, obviously won't report this correctly.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

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