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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet swatting, making police kick in the doors and shoot the dogs of someone who was victim of anonymous slander, isn't really a thing here in europe compared to the US.

The user you replied to was talking about UK, not Europe.

My first two sentences were about the UK. The third was general.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

#72
post #30

I'm done for once the authorities know I have an account on HACKER News.

When I was in high school I brought in a copy of The Hacker's Dictionary to show a friend. A teacher saw it. A few weeks later there was a hacking incident! The shared spreadsheet of every pupil's grades that every teacher had full access to was modified, boosting the grades of some students (including me) and lowering the grades of others (including people I didn't get on with). I was immediately sent home during th…

When I was in middle school I used to download keygens and cracks for programs from the school computer and take them with me home on a floppy disk because I didn’t have internet at home.

One of the websites I downloaded keygens and cracks from was called TheBugs.WS. Another pupil saw that I was downloading keygens and stuff and tried to rat me out to one of the teachers saying like “hey look at his screen, he can’t use the computer for that”.

The teacher had a brief glance at my monitor and read the title of the page TheBugs.WS and just said “nothing wrong about learning about insects” and then just walked away lololol. To this day I still don’t know if the teacher genuinely though the page was about insects just from the title, or if she just didn’t care as long as the briefest of glances at my screen didn’t show anything that seemed really out of place.

Either which way, my situation was kind of the exact opposite of yours. And the inconspicuous name of the site was enough that I didn’t get in trouble even though I could have if a teacher looked closely.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

#73

Might as well report all users of internet to authorities for using internet because internet can also be used to commit fraud.

Exactly, don't forget, if you own or drive a car you must be a criminal, because cars are used as getaway vehicles in serious crimes.

You can also murder people with your car including children.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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How many chief constables aren't white? Cognitive dissonance isn't a fact

You will need to explain this in more detail so people without racial prejudice can understand why someone's race impacts their ability to do a certain job. If they were not white, you would still have to claim there is discrimination? Or do you believe that non whites are inherently better at policing? Unclear. Also, in the UK there has been central directives to discriminate in favour of ethnic minorities for nearl…

It's really not that complicated.

If we have fewer non-white police officers, our ability to keep the whole of our (gratefully diverse) population safe is at a disadvantage. We need a police force that accurately represents the full range of diversity in our country.

Occasionally members of the police force will f*k up badly. This is a fact.

In the case of Henry Nowak, a police officer made an incredibly bad call and this added to Novak's tragic passing.

The misdemeanor associated with one person does not mean that our diverse society should be made less diverse.

The very fact that people like you are calling for this type of change is ignorant, opportunistic and frankly wrong.

I will not stand for it.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

#76
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet swatting, making police kick in the doors and shoot the dogs of someone who was victim of anonymous slander, isn't really a thing here in europe compared to the US.

The user you replied to was talking about UK, not Europe.

The UK is a part of Europe.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

#77

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This actually is how authorities work. If you do anything unusual at all, you are flagged as suspicious. You will find yourself being denied services without explanation. There is no appeal process.

Not where I live. If it's happening where you live then it's a sign you need to start protesting/organizing/get involved in politics/using whatever skills you have to improve matters before they get worse. This happened in the UK, specifically, and from what we've all seen it's definitely sliding in a bad direction over the past decade. But it's also not in any way so far gone that you can't take action. If you're si…

If you show up to a protest then you automatically get put on a police database via facial recognition.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

#78

OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

Non-crime hate incidents 1) never lead to people being charged, and 2) recording of them has been greatly reformed following a court ruling and new legislation

I agree there are a lot of problems (e.g. the online safety Act) but it look as though both the rest of Europe and the rest of the west is going the same way.

I also assume this incident was not in the UK as the details were shared on imgur which blocks the UK. The authorities also do not seem to have taken any action. Anyone can report anything they want.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

#79
post #16

- Heavy censorship - Two-tier justice system - This How did it come to this? The UK is arguably the country that has done the most for the cause of freedom, having led the way in abolishing slavery.

Can we stop it with this two tier justice system nonsense?

I wouldn't call it two-tier justice, because generally the courts do the right thing, but there's a shamefully obvious two-tier policing.

From the Jay Report [0] showing crimes swept under the rug according to ethnic/socioeconomic background of perp and victim, to arresting people for opposing genocide (sorry: terrorism!) [1] to the recent case of Henry Nowak [2], it's really hard not to see a two-tier policing in the UK. And this very submission; caring about privacy is seen grounds for being reported and potentially investigated, by a private company! Which suggests it's something already internalized, too, for people who resist big corp surveillance.

Back in the 90s and before, the two-tier heavily punished the minorities, and in an overshooting overcorrection, now it's the other way around. Nowak getting handcuffed by cops going "I don't think you have [been stabbed] mate!" says it all. Unless it's regarding opposing/supporting Israel, then the two-tier flips and people with basic human decency and actual antisemites are pigeonholed together, nevermind their background.

[0] https://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/279/independent-...

[1] https://newint.org/action/2025/i-oppose-genocide-ok

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Henry_Nowak

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

#80
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Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. I won't be visiting. Despite many flaws, the US has some damn good rights for its citizens compared to the rest of the world.

Yet swatting, making police kick in the doors and shoot the dogs of someone who was victim of anonymous slander, isn't really a thing here in europe compared to the US.

The US has a good constitution but worse policing.
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