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Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Local LLMs. Krasis is one such tool that allows large models using blended GPU/RAM. ik_llama for better performance than llama. ComfyAI for local image generation. Nanocrab seems better for orchestration. Still need a good system capability firewall.

Who’s buying the memory for this effort?

Think how cheap its gonna be when everyone abandons the cloud providers and they start selling the 50B of hardware they over-invested in

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#102

Anthropic employee here (opinions are my own): the response " [...] However, I need to let you know that we are unable to issue compensation [...]" was, as you imagined, generated by Claude. I don't like it, but can't do much about it.

> I don't like it, but can't do much about it.

Is the culture really such that you can't escalate an obvious, fairly minor mistake that is turning into disastrous PR?

That would explain a lot of recent Anthropic takes actually.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#103
post #10

I feel like Anthropic keeps doing this thing were they take a hard-line position and then walk it back, I presume because they're not communicating effectively internally. So I would guess this person will get a refund but it's still a terrible look (and legitimately unacceptable behavior).

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Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#104
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anyone with principles quit the moment a company did something bad, you'd be left with only people who are cynical and/or bad and/or sufficiently indentured to be unable to push back against management, and there would be no hope of the company ever improving. Sure, everyone probably has their own personal line such as "will quit if my employer is declared complicit in genocide by the UN", but bad customer service…

> and there would be no hope of the company ever improving. I don't see anything wrong with this. My integrity and values are above any company's. Companies can go to hell for all I care

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Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#105
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could quit, for starters

If anyone with principles quit the moment a company did something bad, you'd be left with only people who are cynical and/or bad and/or sufficiently indentured to be unable to push back against management, and there would be no hope of the company ever improving. Sure, everyone probably has their own personal line such as "will quit if my employer is declared complicit in genocide by the UN", but bad customer service…

> left with only people who are cynical and/or bad and/or sufficiently indentured to be unable to push back against management, and there would be no hope of the company ever improving.

So basically all of big tech.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#106

My understanding was they would process a refund, but no further compensation? Otherwise why would they look for an account to process the refund? English is not my first language, so I might have misunderstood....

As I read it, they didn't look up the account to process the refund. They looked up the account to decide whether to process the refund, and then the decision was "no".

The rest of the support response is just pleasantries and padding, to dance around this fact ("Your detailed reproduction steps will be valuable" blah blah).

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#107
post #3

> However, I need to let you know that we are unable to issue compensation for degraded service or *technical errors* that result in incorrect billing routing. This is very surprising. I've never seen a legitimate business not give refunds for technical errors of their own fault. Minimum Anthropic should credit the full amount to them.

> I've never seen a legitimate business not give refunds for technical errors of their own fault.

Granted, it was very much weasel words.

Nonetheless, I read it as they were issuing a refund ("Let me look up your account information to help process your refund request."), but couldn't offer compensation for pain, suffering, loss of use, tracking down the bug, etc.

I could be wrong, of course, precisely because it was (probably AI-generated) weasel words.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#108
post #3

> However, I need to let you know that we are unable to issue compensation for degraded service or *technical errors* that result in incorrect billing routing. This is very surprising. I've never seen a legitimate business not give refunds for technical errors of their own fault. Minimum Anthropic should credit the full amount to them.

The official response feels AI generated. I suspect this is a preview of our future. "You're totally right! I'm sorry but you're going to have to piss off anyway. Would you like to spend a few more hours discussing it with our AI chatbot? It won't help. But if it makes you feel better, it will probably cost us an extra $0.12 in tokens." I'll bet the first human at Anthropic learns about this from HN.

Anthropic doesn't even use their own harnesses for their support chatbots (they're using fin.ai) - that's how little support matters to them. Seems like either you get attention on HN, know someone working there, or are at a large enough company to have an enterprise contact - otherwise, no reply.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#109
post #56

I recently had my automatic reload double charge me $100. I tried reaching out to Anthropic, but my only option (of course) was a chat agent. After going through a conversation with it, I was told someone would reach out to help with the matter. Never happened. I eventually reached out to my credit-card company and did a dispute, which they just ruled in my favor.

Once the dispute was resolved on the card side did anthropic claw back the $100? Was your account penalized in anyway?

That's the thing, right? I would not be surprised if they have an agent that bans accounts that do chargebacks on them even when they're wrong. So you either accept it if you have to use it for work or you risk and deal with the possible consequences.

Re: HERMES.md in commit messages causes requests to route to extra usage billing

#110

Anthropic employee here (opinions are my own): the response " [...] However, I need to let you know that we are unable to issue compensation [...]" was, as you imagined, generated by Claude. I don't like it, but can't do much about it.

A little human touch goes a long way with customer service and sales. Sorry your management makes you guys look so bad. But yea I am done with anthropic as well. No offense to you all actually making the thing.

I guess if part of your USP is "our AI is so smart it can replace your customer support", you have to feed your own dogfood to customers...
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