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A laptop without a unified memory model is categorically incapable of being the "ultimate developer laptop". Framework already have Strix Halo machines, I don't know why they felt the need to hamstring this thing with Intel.
I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).
Any plans to have a keyboard with a trackpoint and thumb buttons? I Don't need a trackpad. If you add this then you'll have a new customer for life. The trackpoint is the only thing that keeps me chained to Thinkpads.
I don't know how much keyboard-design flexibility is available to you, but innovative keyboard could even be a killer feature.
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I want to say as a fw13 owner that people don't realize that the 3:2 screen ratio gives you extra vertical space compared to your typical notebook and the screen does not feel small at all. That was an excellent decision from their design team.
Agreed. I have a work MBP 14" and a Framework 13, and I didn't realize until just now that they weren't the same screen size. The Framework 13 is very comfortable to use.
As soon as I saw the email announcement for the 13 Pro, my face fell. My assumption was that this was a brand new, incompatible chassis, and that my current 13 would be obsolete, and if I want to go further, I'd have to buy a whole new chassis in one go. Essentially a full laptop replacement, completely betraying the entire point. And then I click through and see the compatibility table and my jaw drops. Amazing! Yes…
The thermals hopefully won't be a problem, since the new Intel chips are quite efficient.
I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).
Are you guys thinking about pushing to improve the linux software experience at all? To me that could almost be another selling point, if Framework 13 came with some downstream patches that improved sleep, power management, multi-display and hi-dpi monitor handling, etc. And secondly how healthy is framework as a company, and to what extent do you make money from consumers vs sales to big companies?
I'll take this opportunity to report on my Framework Laptop 13 experience. I've had it for over a year. The case is warped in multiple places. One USB C module doesn't accept a power charge reliably. It can overheat and shutdown. If the case flexes a little the trackpad stops responding - it needs to be on a flat surface. Power brick died. On the plus side, my partner had one and when she threw it away she gave me he…
To compare anecdotes, I’ve had mine for 3 years, and it’s still working great. Haven’t had any issues with it.
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Do these laptops, either the Intel or the AMD version, work with eGPUs on Linux?
I have the 13" with AMD 7040 and eGPU worked fine, but I switched back to a SFF desktop as I couldn't git hot-swapping to work reliably and bandwidth loss over thunderbolt was a little more than I was happy with. But functionally/mechanically it worked
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In which way? Also, out of curiosity, are you running local LLMs? How's the general experience?
1) Reliable sandbox 2) Nixos makes it easy for agents to research, debug and patch every aspect of the system, even applying kernel patches for the sake of debugging 3) CLI-oriented toolchains. Claude spent around 17 hours trying to set up xcode publishing and in the end just told me to press the button once Organizer pops up. 4) Containers
1. I won't be using NixOS so that point is moot to me.
2. Reliable sandbox I can get using Apple Containers. I won't argue that the Linux experience is better, because it is. Alone it wouldn't be a reason for me to switch but it does count towards it.
3. Fair enough, I haven't had that issue on the Mac but that may just be because I'm working with other kinds of tech or I have the things I need installed in a different way.
4. Same as 2, really - unless I misunderstood you.
I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I have been primarily a Mac user for longer than I care to admit and lately macOS and the ecossystem have been growing more hostile to me. I've been on the lookout for a Linux laptop that wouldn't feel like much of a downgrade and the Framework 13 might be it so I'm trying to get as much information as I can before I commit (especially money) to the switch.
I've made several "attempts" to jump ship from Apple hardware before, like the dell XPS "developer edition" which ships with Linux so all the hardware was supported out of the box; the hardware was OK, but the battery life was abysmal. If I can't get 8hr of battery on a machine battery it's just a portable desktop.
I'll take this opportunity to report on my Framework Laptop 13 experience. I've had it for over a year. The case is warped in multiple places. One USB C module doesn't accept a power charge reliably. It can overheat and shutdown. If the case flexes a little the trackpad stops responding - it needs to be on a flat surface. Power brick died. On the plus side, my partner had one and when she threw it away she gave me he…