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NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Side note, how did the word "lose" become "loose"? I've seen this so many times on HN.

Because your pronounce them backwards. "Loose" is a short word that ends sharply, but "lose" is a long word that slowly peters out. They should be the other way around imo.

Since English has a glut of loaner words, I'd assume the two words just originate from different languages.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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The position doesn't matter. Nobody sane listens to what the orange or "the USA" says because it could be the complete opposite tomorrow. Which sadly is exactly the position where the orange wants to be. Free reign for him and nobody cares.

I think the Dutch would take issue with you throwing around "orange" like that.

If Alexander or any of his usurping ancestors has a problem then he can go ride a horse over a molehill. Oh, what, is that line a bit too soon? Tandem Triumphans!

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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It was from GPT-2 and Dario was part of the developers of that model while he was working in OpenAI, not Sam Altman, it's his playbook

> It was from GPT-2 Prior to the released of GPT-5, Sam said he was scared of it and compared it to the Manhattan Project.

Not just Altman. Buffett said it also, more generally.

https://youtu.be/vZlMWF6iFZg

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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post #118

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> The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest Isn’t that just the same strategy OpenAI has used over and over? Sam Altman is always “OMG, the new version of ChatGPT is so scary and dangerous”, but then releases it anyway (tells you a lot about his values—or lack thereof) and it’s more of the same. Pretty sure Aesop had a fable about that. “The CEO who crie…

Anthropic has not in fact released it, and it does in fact appear to be that dangerous, judging by the flood of vulnerability reports seen by e.g. Daniel Stenberg. Certainly it’s a strategy OpenAI has used before, and when they did so it was a lie. Altman’s dishonesty does not mean it can never be true, however.

The flood of reports that open source projects like curl, Linux and Chromium are getting are presumably due to public models like Open 4.6 that released earlier this year, and not models with limited availability.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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> The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest Isn’t that just the same strategy OpenAI has used over and over? Sam Altman is always “OMG, the new version of ChatGPT is so scary and dangerous”, but then releases it anyway (tells you a lot about his values—or lack thereof) and it’s more of the same. Pretty sure Aesop had a fable about that. “The CEO who crie…

It was from GPT-2 and Dario was part of the developers of that model while he was working in OpenAI, not Sam Altman, it's his playbook

Not just part of the developers, but rather "led the development of large language models like GPT-2 and GPT-3" as per his website.

https://darioamodei.com/

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Anthropic has not in fact released it, and it does in fact appear to be that dangerous, judging by the flood of vulnerability reports seen by e.g. Daniel Stenberg. Certainly it’s a strategy OpenAI has used before, and when they did so it was a lie. Altman’s dishonesty does not mean it can never be true, however.

Those vulnerabilities were found by open models as well.

Not really. The models were pointed specifically at the location of the vulnerability and given some extra guidance. That's an easier problem than simply being pointed at the entire code base.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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> The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest Isn’t that just the same strategy OpenAI has used over and over? Sam Altman is always “OMG, the new version of ChatGPT is so scary and dangerous”, but then releases it anyway (tells you a lot about his values—or lack thereof) and it’s more of the same. Pretty sure Aesop had a fable about that. “The CEO who crie…

It was from GPT-2 and Dario was part of the developers of that model while he was working in OpenAI, not Sam Altman, it's his playbook

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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Anthropic has not in fact released it, and it does in fact appear to be that dangerous, judging by the flood of vulnerability reports seen by e.g. Daniel Stenberg. Certainly it’s a strategy OpenAI has used before, and when they did so it was a lie. Altman’s dishonesty does not mean it can never be true, however.

Those vulnerabilities were found by open models as well.

Partly true. I think the consensus was it wasn't comparable because Mythos swept the entire codebase and found the vulnerabilities, whereas the open models were told where to look for said vulnerabilities.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47732337

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Side note, how did the word "lose" become "loose"? I've seen this so many times on HN.

It didn't, but the advent of spellcheck and autocorrect has made everyone completely give up on proper grammar or word selection as long as no squiggly line appears.

Could also be non-native speakers .. Even as a former grammar nazi, now that English isn't my daily driver language I find myself making basic mistakes .. (two, too, to / its, it's / etc.)
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