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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by surgical_fire »

echelon wrote: post #132
rurp wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is a big community that has always had a mix of people who value newness as a feature vs those who prioritize simplicity and reliability. Unless you're recognizing the exact same names taking these contradictory opinions it's probably different groups of people for the most part. It seems like every LLM thread for the past couple years is full of posts saying that the latest hot AI tool/approach has made them unbe…

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

I read this as satire. I still think it is.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by xantronix »

stefan_ wrote: post #214
xantronix wrote: post #75

As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

I would love nothing more than ditching Claude for a local solution tomorrow. But it doesn't exist today, so it is what it is - you gotta keep up with the joneses. Maybe in 5 years we'll have an open weights model that is in the "good enough" category that I can run on a RTX 9000 for 15k dollars or whatever.

I don't want to get too much into the details but I don't work in or for the Valley and I don't think I'll ever be able to afford that sort of expenditure on computing. A down payment on a car, or a vital medical procedure? Sure. I'm probably not alone here.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by mikebenfield »

xantronix wrote: post #233
echelon wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

Mind if I use this as a copypasta for the future? This checks off every point people bring on LinkedIn and elsewhere. In all seriousness though, writing code, or even sitting down and properly architecting things, have never been bottlenecks for me. It has either been artificial deadlines preventing me from writing proper unit tests, or the requirement for code review from people on my team who don't even work on the…

> artificial deadlines preventing me from writing proper unit tests, or the requirement for code review from people on my team who don't even work on the same codebase as I do on a daily basis

I have never experienced this, and it sounds remarkably dysfunctional to me.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by suzzer99 »

nerptastic wrote: post #174
echelon wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

Man I really thought this was satire. It’s phenomenal that you can gain 10x benefits at all layers of the stack, you must have a very small development team or work alone. I just don’t see how I could export 10x the work and have it properly validated by peers at this point in time. I may be able to generate code 10-20x faster, but there are nuances that only a human can reason about in my particular sector.

Senior engineer with 25 years of experience here. I wish I spent enough time actually coding that 10x-ing my coding productivity would matter much to my job. Most of my day is spent wrangling requirements, looking after junior devs, stamping out confusion brush fires before they get out of control, and generally just trying to steer the app away from a trainwreck down the line.

When I do code, it's almost always something novel that I don't know how I'm going to implement until I code a few pieces and see how they fit together. If it's a fairly routine feature based on an existing pattern, I assign it to one of the other devs.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by julian37 »

ericmcer wrote: post #216
hombre_fatal wrote: post #179

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I suspect many people here have tried it, but they expected it to one-shot any prompt, and when it didn't, it confirmed what they wanted to be true and they responded with "hah, see?" and then washed their hands of it. So it's not that they're too stupid. There are various motivations for this: clinging on to familiarity, resistance to what feels like yet another tool, anti-AI koolaid, earnestly underwhelmed but don'…

So what do I do differently then? Hypothetically, you have a simple slice out of bounds error because a function is getting an empty string so it does something like: `""[5]`. Opus will add a bunch of length & nil checks to "fix" this, but the actual issue is the string should never be empty. The nil checks are just papering over a deeper issue, like you probably need a schema level check for minimum string length. A…

Use planning+execution rather than one-shotting, it'll let you push back on stuff like this. I recommend brainstorming everything with https://github.com/obra/superpowers, at least to start with.

Then work on making sure the LLM has all the info it needs. In this example it sounds like perhaps your hypothetical data model would need to be better typed and/or documented.

But yeah as of today it won't pick up on smells as you do, at least not without extra skills/prompting. You'll find that comforting or annoying depending on where you stand...

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by unshavedyak »

UI_at_80x24 wrote: post #241
ericmcer wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what do I do differently then? Hypothetically, you have a simple slice out of bounds error because a function is getting an empty string so it does something like: `""[5]`. Opus will add a bunch of length & nil checks to "fix" this, but the actual issue is the string should never be empty. The nil checks are just papering over a deeper issue, like you probably need a schema level check for minimum string length. A…

I have encountered the exact same kind of frustration, and no amount of prompting seems to prevent it from "randomly" happening. `the error is on line #145 fix it with XYZ and add a check that no string should ever be blank` It's the randomness that is frustrating, and that the fix would be quicker to manually input that drives me crazy. I fear that all the "rules" I add to claude.md is wasting my available tokens it…

Yup, this is why i firmly believe true productivity, as in, it aiding you to make you faster, is limited by the speed of review.

I think Claude makes me faster, but the struggle is always centered around retaining own context and reviewing code fully. Reviewing code fully to make sure it’s correct and the way I want it, retaining my own context to speed up reviews and not get lost.

I firmly believe people who are seeing massive gains are simply ignoring x% lines of code. There’s an argument to be made for that being acceptable, but it’s a risk analysis problem currently. Not one I subscribe to.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by abroszka33 »

cvdub wrote: post #178
abroszka33 wrote: post #81

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How are you using it to reach the limit so quickly? I'm 13% at a 10x plan and I have used it for hours every day for the last 5 days. I never hit a limit.

Hitting limits is more related to how many tokens it’s generating, not necessarily how complex the changes are. Hit the weekly limit on my 20x plan last week trying to do a full front end rewrite of a giant enterprise web app, 600+ html templates, plus validating every single one with playwright.

That's definitely a lot of work. That consuming a week worth of tokens sounds reasonable.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by Aurornis »

echelon wrote: post #132
rurp wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is a big community that has always had a mix of people who value newness as a feature vs those who prioritize simplicity and reliability. Unless you're recognizing the exact same names taking these contradictory opinions it's probably different groups of people for the most part. It seems like every LLM thread for the past couple years is full of posts saying that the latest hot AI tool/approach has made them unbe…

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

I use Claude Code a lot, but I don't understand these "I'm doing 10X the work" comments.

I spend a lot of time reviewing any code that comes out of Claude Code. Even using Opus 4.6 with max effort there is almost always something that needs to be changed, often dramatically.

I can see how people go down the path of thinking "Wow, this code compiles and passes my tests! Ship it!" and start handing trust over to Opus, but I've already seen what this turns into 6 months down the road: Projects get mired down in so much complexity and LLM spaghetti that the codebase becomes fragile. Everyone is sidetracked restructuring messy code from the past, then fighting bugs that appear in the change.

I can believe some of the more recent studies showing LLMs can accelerate work by circa 20% (1.2X) because that's on the same order of magnitude that I and others are seeing with careful use.

When someone comes out and claims 10X more output, I simply cannot believe they're doing careful engineering work instead of just shipping the output after a cursory glance.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Post by dns_snek »

ericmcer wrote: post #165
echelon wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

I mean at this point can we just conclude that there are a group of engineers who claim to have incredible success with it and a group that claim it is unreliable and cannot be trusted to do complex tasks. I struggle to believe that a ton of seemingly intelligent software engineers are too dumb to figure out how to use Claude code to get reliable results, it seems much more likely to me that it can do well at isolate…

> But yeah spinning up a green fields project in an extensively solved area (ledgers) is going to be something an AI shines at.

I couldn't disagree with this more. It's impressive at building demos, but asking it to build the foundation for a long-term project has been disastrous in my experience.

When you have an established project and you're asking it to color between the lines it can do that well (most of the time), but when you give it a blank canvas and a lot of autonomy it will likely end up generating crap code at a staggering pace. It becomes a constant fight against entropy where every mess you don't clean up immediately gets picked up as "the way things should be done" the next time.

Before someone asks, this is my experience with both Claude Code (Sonnet/Opus 4.6) and Codex (GPT 5.4).

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