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Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#132As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…
HN is a big community that has always had a mix of people who value newness as a feature vs those who prioritize simplicity and reliability. Unless you're recognizing the exact same names taking these contradictory opinions it's probably different groups of people for the most part. It seems like every LLM thread for the past couple years is full of posts saying that the latest hot AI tool/approach has made them unbe…
> I get it. LLMs are cool technology.
I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong.
I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before.
And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lots of other hard hitting platform engineering work. Serious senior engineering for over a decade.
This isn't just a "cool technology". We've exited the punch card phase. And that is hard or impossible to come back from.
If you're not seeing these same successes, I legitimately think you're using it wrong.
I honestly don't like subscription services, hyperscaler concentration of power, or the fact I can't run Opus locally. But it doesn't matter - the tool exists in the shape it does, and I have to consume it in the way that it's presented. I hope for a different offering that is more democratic and open, but right now the market hasn't provided that.
It's as if you got access to fiber or broadband and were asked to go back to ISDN/dial up.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#133As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…
I think most people understand the need for subscriptions here. It is an ongoing massive compute cost, and that’s what you’re paying for. Your local system is not capable of running the massive amount of compute required for this. If it were then we would see more people up in arms about it.
We could run it locally, but the problems that matter simply don't change.
We're paying for servers that sit idle at night, you don't find enough sysadmins for the current problems, the open source models aren't as strong as closed source, providing context (as in googling) means you hook everything up to the internet anyway, where do you find the power and the cooling systems and the space, what do you do with the GPUs after 3 years?
Suddenly that $500/month/user seems like a steal.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#134Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…
I was vacationing! What's up with OpenAI now? Asking with some morbid curiosity tbh.
Codex just changed the way they calculate usage with a massive negative impact.
Before a Subscription was the cheapest way to gain Codex usage, but now they've essentially having API and Subscription pricing match (e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage).
The only value of a subscription now is that you get the web version of ChatGPT "free." In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage.
edit: This is currently rolled out for Enterprise, but is coming to Pro/Plus soon. The people below saying "I haven't had this issue" haven't yet*.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s like most lifetime warranties. They’re not what they seem to mean colloquially. They have a contractual meaning.
They never said WHOSE lifetime...
I think with some it’s the lifetime of the product line. If it’s sunset, no longer sold; lifetime ends when support ends.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just want a little predictable insight into how much I get. For example, at a buffet, I know I can only eat so much food and can plan around it. This is like going to a buffet and not knowing how many plates I can take or how big the plates are, and it changes each week, and yet I have to keep paying the same price. Except it's not about eating, it's about my work and deadlines and promises and all that.
If you need the tokens for real work, that’s what the API and the other providers like Bedrock are for. The subscription product is merely to whet your appetite.
Missing the point. I don't choose which tokens to buy. I send a request and the server decides how much it costs after its done.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#137I stopped using Claude Code several months ago and I can't say I've missed it.
There was constant drama with CC. Degradation, low reliability, harness conspiring against you, and etc – these things are not new. Its burgeoning popularity has only made it worse. Anthropic is always doing something to shoot themselves in the foot.
The harness does cool things, don't get me wrong. But it comes with a ton of papercuts that don't belong in a professional product.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#138As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…
Contingency plan? Just code without it like before. AI could disappear today and I would be very disappointed but it's not like I forgot how to code without it. If anything, I think it's made me a better programmer by taking friction away from the execution phase and giving me more mental space to think in the abstract at times, and that benefit has certainly carried over to my work where we still don't have copilot approved yet.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Checking different models once every quarter is exactly what made me move to claude code.
Anthropic models haven't been far ahead for a while. Quite a few months at least. Chinese models are roughly equal at 1/6th the cost. Minimax is roughly equal to Opus. Chinese providers also haven't had the issues with uptime and variable model quality. The gap with OpenAI also isn't huge and GLM is a noticeably more compliant model (unsurprisingly given the hubristic internal culture at Anthropic around safety). CC…
> CC is a better implementation and seems to be fairly economic with token usage. That is the really the only defining point and, I suspect, Anthropic are going to have a lot of trouble staying relevant with all the product issues.
What are you using to drive the Chinese models in order to evaluate this? OpenCode?
Some of Claude Code's features, like remote sessions, are far more important than the underlying model for my productivity.
Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows
#140As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…
Apart from local AI, a serious choice is aggregated API such as new-api [0]. An API provider aggregated thousands of accounts has much better stability than a single account. It's also cheaper than the official API because of how the subscription model works, see e.g. the analysis [1].