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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Not sure how Claude and CC has become the defacto best model given gpt 5.3 codex and 5.4 exist. This space moves so fast you should be testing your workflows on different models at least once every quarter, prudently once a month.

Checking different models once every quarter is exactly what made me move to claude code.

Anthropic models haven't been far ahead for a while. Quite a few months at least. Chinese models are roughly equal at 1/6th the cost. Minimax is roughly equal to Opus. Chinese providers also haven't had the issues with uptime and variable model quality. The gap with OpenAI also isn't huge and GLM is a noticeably more compliant model (unsurprisingly given the hubristic internal culture at Anthropic around safety).

CC is a better implementation and seems to be fairly economic with token usage. That is the really the only defining point and, I suspect, Anthropic are going to have a lot of trouble staying relevant with all the product issues.

They were far ahead for a brief period in November/December which is driving the hype cycle that now appears to be collapsing the company.

You have to test at least every month, things are moving quickly. Stepfun is releasing soon and seems to have an Opus-level model with more efficient architecture.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they risk brand death like Microsoft Is Microsoft (one of the largest companies in the world) really a victim of brand death?

have you ever met a person who likes outlook?

No but I know oh so many forced to use it regardless.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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post #8

Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…

Alternatively, the elephant in the room I'm surprised no one wants to talk about: the vibe coding is catching up with them.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#85

No one is going to like this answer, but there’s a simple solution: pay for API tokens and adjust your use of CC so that the actions you have it take are worth the cost of the tokens. It’s great to buy dollars for a penny, but the guy selling em is going to want to charge a dollar eventually…

This is it. These subscriptions have been heavily subsidized, which was fine when usage was much lower overall. But with so many folks trying to use the tools and soaking up all the chips something has to give.

Now we’re going to find out what these tools are really worth.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#86

No one is going to like this answer, but there’s a simple solution: pay for API tokens and adjust your use of CC so that the actions you have it take are worth the cost of the tokens. It’s great to buy dollars for a penny, but the guy selling em is going to want to charge a dollar eventually…

I just want a little predictable insight into how much I get. For example, at a buffet, I know I can only eat so much food and can plan around it. This is like going to a buffet and not knowing how many plates I can take or how big the plates are, and it changes each week, and yet I have to keep paying the same price. Except it's not about eating, it's about my work and deadlines and promises and all that.

If you need the tokens for real work, that’s what the API and the other providers like Bedrock are for. The subscription product is merely to whet your appetite.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#87
Isn't it a little weird that we trust this app to help us build some of the most important parts of our business and the company that vends this app keep breaking it in unique ways.

At my workplace we have been sticking with older versions, and now stick to the stable release channel.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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post #84
post #8

Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…

Alternatively, the elephant in the room I'm surprised no one wants to talk about: the vibe coding is catching up with them.

That's not an elephant in the room.. it's just proof of how insanely useful the tool is and the reality that so much more hardware is needed. Thus people saying "why are these companies building insanely large data centers" ... this is why!

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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post #8

Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…

I looked at my cc usage and I was at 90% of my weekly allowance after 3 days of use...BUT, if I looked at the usage stats with the chart, it showed, on a scale of 1-4 intensity of usage (4 being most intense), the three days as such: Day 1: 2 Day 2: 3 Day 3: 1 Not sure how I can hit such limits so quickly with such low scores on its own chart.

The limits are smaller now, is how.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

#90

As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

HN is a big community that has always had a mix of people who value newness as a feature vs those who prioritize simplicity and reliability. Unless you're recognizing the exact same names taking these contradictory opinions it's probably different groups of people for the most part.

It seems like every LLM thread for the past couple years is full of posts saying that the latest hot AI tool/approach has made them unbelievably more productive, followed by others saying they found that same thing underwhelming.

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