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German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by array_key_first »

postsantum wrote: post #57
atmavatar wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Men are biologically disposable. If a nation lost 90% or better of its adult male population, it could still bounce back within a generation or two. Women have no incentive to change that, and the small fraction of men powerful enough to change it can already exempt themselves from the meat grinder. The remaining men's opinions don't matter.

German women as capable as men, btw. How about to stop this sexist bullshit

It's not about capability, it's about value.

Women's lives are valuable, men's are not. This has been the case across basically all societies in human history. Losing a ton of men really doesn't matter too much - especially young, family-less men.

Losing a lot of women, though, is really really bad.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by venvoccd161 »

raffael_de wrote: post #5
klausa wrote: post #4

That seems more “oh we fucked up and didn’t realize our changes to the law imply this” than “Germany forces men to request permission to leave”.

Highly doubt it. This is a very new addition. Their fuck up was to pretend for ideological reasons that a country doesn't need an army. And that the concept of considering a country home and its culture as something worth preserving is just right wing bs. Now they are surprised that only very few men deliberately registered for armed service ...

Even NATO generals aren`t talking about Russia invading Germany anytime soon. It`s all about securing NATO territory in the Baltics. Confusing this with "considering a country home and its culture as something worth preserving" when there is no threat to German soil is misleading.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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array_key_first wrote: post #61
postsantum wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

German women as capable as men, btw. How about to stop this sexist bullshit

It's not about capability, it's about value. Women's lives are valuable, men's are not. This has been the case across basically all societies in human history. Losing a ton of men really doesn't matter too much - especially young, family-less men. Losing a lot of women, though, is really really bad.

I was informed that we are all equal. Plenty of wartime occupancies carry no risk of dying, like being a nurse

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by dudul »

5555624 wrote: post #36
mcculley wrote: post #33

If the U.S. implements a draft, would we first implement exit visas?

If the U.S. implements a draft, will women be required to register? Right now, only men are required to register with the Selected Service when they turn 18. Would Congress amend the Military Selective Service Act?

If they aren't, all men should just identify as women.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by plorkyeran »

raffael_de wrote: post #23
uyzstvqs wrote: post #21

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> And while I wouldn't necessarily call it draconian because after all somebody has to defend my country The ends don't justify the means. Conscription has no place in the free world. It's slavery, plain and simple. Going into the military should be an appealing career choice. Our soldiers are supposed to be highly skilled professionals, not cannon fodder in large quantities.

So, if some other country with different value system attacks your homeland with intention to effectively colonize it then you'd be okay with just letting it happen?

If you can’t get volunteers for a defensive war then that says a lot about how much the people living in your country value its continued existence.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

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Post by znpy »

postsantum wrote: post #63
array_key_first wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about capability, it's about value. Women's lives are valuable, men's are not. This has been the case across basically all societies in human history. Losing a ton of men really doesn't matter too much - especially young, family-less men. Losing a lot of women, though, is really really bad.

I was informed that we are all equal. Plenty of wartime occupancies carry no risk of dying, like being a nurse

> Plenty of wartime occupancies carry no risk of dying, like being a nurse

Isn't that reinforcing a gender stereotype? I was told we were against that kind of things around here.

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