Not all men, but all men over 17 and under the age of 45. This still seems draconian, though.
It’s also discriminatory on the basis of the gender, “weird” that nobody’s complaining about that.
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Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad
#52Not all men, but all men over 17 and under the age of 45. This still seems draconian, though.
It’s also discriminatory on the basis of the gender, “weird” that nobody’s complaining about that.
Men are biologically disposable. If a nation lost 90% or better of its adult male population, it could still bounce back within a generation or two.
Women have no incentive to change that, and the small fraction of men powerful enough to change it can already exempt themselves from the meat grinder. The remaining men's opinions don't matter.
Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s also discriminatory on the basis of the gender, “weird” that nobody’s complaining about that.
Men are biologically disposable. If a nation lost 90% or better of its adult male population, it could still bounce back within a generation or two. Women have no incentive to change that, and the small fraction of men powerful enough to change it can already exempt themselves from the meat grinder. The remaining men's opinions don't matter.
And farewell gender equality I guess.
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#54Not all men, but all men over 17 and under the age of 45. This still seems draconian, though.
Drafts seem like an outdated pre-globalist concept. Die for the borders nobody respects anyway. You need to be nationalistic when it’s useful to your leaders that hate you. Of course just the natives need to die, all the immigrants won’t be doing that.
Fine you can make do in the Congo with everyone else who disrespects borders
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe it is up to the free individual to make that decision. I'm not saving the slave ship when I'm treated like one. ps: There are 8 billion people on this planet, and I've never had any serious issues with any of them, much less a reason to start a war. Governments are always the cause of everyone's misery. Beware of yours!
We now know for certain you don't live in Ukraine, nor any other country that has been invaded in your lifetime.
My family is from Ramallah so my wish to die for someone's greater cause is somewhat constrained.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US has this too. All males register at 18. But the US, for all its militarism, and all its military adventures, has not used the draft since Vietnam. So I would say that Germany sees the need to be in a position where it can respond quickly if they need it. Well, given current events in their neighborhood, I can see their point. In fact, I would say that they are probably at least three years late in doing this.
I mean, short term it's obvious what will happen. Europe's peace at all costs (or should I say: at NO cost) will fail and Russia will attack in a matter of years. Some states will be forced to defend and a number of European countries will respond as a coalition. Many other European states will refuse to help, a few very publicly. And obviously this coalition will either beat Russia back or at the very least stop Rus…
I am a US citizen and I try to see the world as it is.
>Will the US help? That was a given even just 1 year ago, but now is strongly in doubt. With the current commander in chief, the US will do nothing except talk a lot of nonsense contradicting itself daily.
>What will happen to world trade?. World trade as we know it is done. National security interests will force strategic industries to be on-shored. New trade deals will only be made with a short list of trustworthy allies.
If Russia does attack, the US will take 1+ years to ramp up and we will take a long time before we reach Europe in large numbers. The rapid reaction forces we have are not prepared for the new way of fighting we see in Ukraine.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s also discriminatory on the basis of the gender, “weird” that nobody’s complaining about that.
Men are biologically disposable. If a nation lost 90% or better of its adult male population, it could still bounce back within a generation or two. Women have no incentive to change that, and the small fraction of men powerful enough to change it can already exempt themselves from the meat grinder. The remaining men's opinions don't matter.
German women as capable as men, btw. How about to stop this sexist bullshit
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#58Being 46 (and quite an active 46 year old, just finished a Skitour), am curious why the cutoff for these things tends to be 45?
Let's see ... On December 5, 2025 the German parliament passed a law requiring all men between 18 and 45 years to register "for military service", which everyone should fully understand to mean to register for conscription. Oh and they've added a very political clause: the government can activate conscription WITHOUT a parliament vote. So most political parties who have voted in favor of conscription want to be able…
For the past 5 weeks the most advanced military technology in the world has acomplished basically nothing.
Also the main reason russia is still slowly gaining land in Ukraine is because there are not enough people to man the frontline.
Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Men are biologically disposable. If a nation lost 90% or better of its adult male population, it could still bounce back within a generation or two. Women have no incentive to change that, and the small fraction of men powerful enough to change it can already exempt themselves from the meat grinder. The remaining men's opinions don't matter.
German women as capable as men, btw. How about to stop this sexist bullshit
One woman can have one child a year. One man can have hundreds of children a year.
This isn't sexist, it's reality. It's the rationale for male conscription and male disposability.
Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad
#60Not all men, but all men over 17 and under the age of 45. This still seems draconian, though.
The law says all men aged 17 and older, not military-aged. https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/wehrpflg/__3.html
From your link
(3) Die Wehrpflicht endet mit Ablauf des Jahres, in dem der Wehrpflichtige das 45. Lebensjahr vollendet.