Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

dw.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

1–10 of 799 posts

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

#3

Post by raffael_de »

The_suffocated wrote: post #2

Not all men, but all men over 17 and under the age of 45. This still seems draconian, though.

Number of characters for the title is limited. And while I wouldn't necessarily call it draconian because after all somebody has to defend my country; it in deed comes as a shock. And it is also shocking that I just randomly stumbled over this news article when this law is in effect already for 3 months. How is it possible that our news talk about all sorts of nonsense but not about something as fundamentally relevant as this ... this is the real shock.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

#5

Post by raffael_de »

klausa wrote: post #4

That seems more “oh we fucked up and didn’t realize our changes to the law imply this” than “Germany forces men to request permission to leave”.

Highly doubt it. This is a very new addition. Their fuck up was to pretend for ideological reasons that a country doesn't need an army. And that the concept of considering a country home and its culture as something worth preserving is just right wing bs. Now they are surprised that only very few men deliberately registered for armed service ...

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

#6

Post by mnmalst »

raffael_de wrote: post #3
The_suffocated wrote: post #2

Not all men, but all men over 17 and under the age of 45. This still seems draconian, though.

Number of characters for the title is limited. And while I wouldn't necessarily call it draconian because after all somebody has to defend my country; it in deed comes as a shock. And it is also shocking that I just randomly stumbled over this news article when this law is in effect already for 3 months. How is it possible that our news talk about all sorts of nonsense but not about something as fundamentally relevan…

I agree in general. One reason we haven't heard anything about it might be that the administration already admitted that this legislation needs correction or at least clarification, as mentioned in the article.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

#7

Post by raffael_de »

mnmalst wrote: post #6
raffael_de wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Number of characters for the title is limited. And while I wouldn't necessarily call it draconian because after all somebody has to defend my country; it in deed comes as a shock. And it is also shocking that I just randomly stumbled over this news article when this law is in effect already for 3 months. How is it possible that our news talk about all sorts of nonsense but not about something as fundamentally relevan…

I agree in general. One reason we haven't heard anything about it might be that the administration already admitted that this legislation needs correction or at least clarification, as mentioned in the article.

No, that is not mentioned in the article. The correction and clarification is regarding how exactly this is being implemented. The law is there ... don't think this is a mistake. And there should be serious discussions in a society before something like that is made a law.

Re: German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad

#8

Post by kristianc »

mnmalst wrote: post #6
raffael_de wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Number of characters for the title is limited. And while I wouldn't necessarily call it draconian because after all somebody has to defend my country; it in deed comes as a shock. And it is also shocking that I just randomly stumbled over this news article when this law is in effect already for 3 months. How is it possible that our news talk about all sorts of nonsense but not about something as fundamentally relevan…

I agree in general. One reason we haven't heard anything about it might be that the administration already admitted that this legislation needs correction or at least clarification, as mentioned in the article.

Draconian law gets introduced, public outcry ensues. Oh okay we will make it six months then. This is how civil liberties get eroded.
Post reply on HN