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Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Cost of doing business...

"We went a little over the line to figure out where the line is, so, we can now guarantee you, dear shareholder, that we're extracting the absolute maximum possible value! Isn't that splendid!"

More like “we found a company doing business in the EU who has deep pockets. I bet we can get 500 mil from them and they won’t leave.”

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

#252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meta is like one giant cancer that grew a few small tumors of benign[1] nature, like some of their efforts in open source and open research (React, Llama, etc.). [1]: I could be wrong thinking those are benign.

>Meta is like one giant cancer Cancer is a great metaphor because its a perversion of natural, healthy processes. So called social media is nearly that, but actually grotesquely unhealthy. People are dramatically unwell when they are not social, but that unregulated process is also negative up to and including being lethal.

Exactly. It started out as something good: see what friends and family are up to. But now: scroll infinite algorithmically placed or sponsored rage bait trying to trigger you into behaving the way that advances certain corporate or foreign interests at the expense of whatever was left of our already tattered social fabric and our collective mental or literal health.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meta is like one giant cancer that grew a few small tumors of benign[1] nature, like some of their efforts in open source and open research (React, Llama, etc.). [1]: I could be wrong thinking those are benign.

>Meta is like one giant cancer Cancer is a great metaphor because its a perversion of natural, healthy processes. So called social media is nearly that, but actually grotesquely unhealthy. People are dramatically unwell when they are not social, but that unregulated process is also negative up to and including being lethal.

Being on "social media" is a fundamentally unsocial activity: you do it alone, it makes you lonely, and it separates you from others. Some people manage to bootstrap a social layer on top of the base medium, but most are being driven apart for profit.

I call it _anti_social media.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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the leaders of these companies don'tlet their kids use it.

I doubt that Zuckerberg really uses either Facebook or Instagram all that much. Maybe as a curated PR channel sure, but he's not doom scrolling Instagram at bedtime. If you know what the platform is capable of, if you seen how the sausage is made, you're probably not using it. People are also a little naive in not seeing that these platforms aren't just bad for children, they are bad for adults as well. I'm not oppos…

Discussions from proper experts about absolute toxicity of social networks in their implementation are at least... 15 years old at this point? At least that, and I am not talking about rare article here and there but onslaught of articles in popular media from all sides. But parents... mostly didn't give a fuck.

Lets admit it, in same vein trump is a symptom of current US society, the approach and effects of social networks we allow them to be is a result of how lazy and thus addicted people got. On top of many of the parents doing exactly the same, then don't expect miracles.

One thing that I don't understand - even here, some folks call that sociopathic amoral piece of shit 'zuck' and treat his empire like some sort of semi-charity. When I attacked facebook company in the past, there was always a lot of defense (look at this open sourced stuff, look at that... which I presume came from either direct employees or clueless stock holders). People are people, deeply flawed and often weak without willingness to admit it to themselves.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Tech bros deliberately made digital crack for kids and corporations refuse to moderate online content. There is no conspiracy the general public is faced with a crisis and they are desperate for a solution. The teen suicide statistics do not lie.

The general public is being told they are faced with a crisis. This has been a problem for at least a decade, yet suddenly it's at the forefront and conveniently ties into ID verification for everyone to use general purpose computing. I'm sorry but if you don't think there's a conspiracy I have a bridge to sell you. It was already unveiled that Meta has lobbied billions towards promoting this legislative change

Oh hell no!

Its been decades of work to even get social media to court.

No one wants to talk about this or look at the issues when it’s not sexy.

$@&$$ - I’ve been at conferences and had safety teams cry on my shoulder about how THEY don’t get engineering resources if they ask for it.

Tech platforms suppress so much research and hold so much data hostage, that an entire research coalition based on independence from tech.

Zuck and tech as a whole pivoted to drop safety investments the moment this government came to power.

And this is for user in frikking America !

The shit that is going down in the rest of the world is a curse. The sheer amount of NCII that exists, with zero recourse for people whose lives are destroyed is insane.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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If Meta did advertise the "safety of its platforms for young users" then they should be held accountable for that. It seems clear from the whistleblowers that Meta had internal data that they knew they were not safe for young users, but Zuck gotta get those ads($$$) in front of young kids.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

#259

The same company intentionally driving minors towards this content (despite claiming to care about them) is also lobbying in secrecy for requiring all of us to scan our ID and face in order to use our phones and computers. Their stated reason? Child safety. Their actual reason? You can figure that out.

> is also lobbying in secrecy for requiring all of us to scan our ID and face in order to use our phones and computers. You’re conflating different things. The OS-level age setting proposals are not the same as scanning IDs and faces. I’m anti age check legislation, too, but the misinformation is getting so bad that it’s starting to weaken the counter-arguments. > Their stated reason? Child safety. > Their actual rea…

> The proposal to move age verification to the OS level would give Meta less information about the user, because the OS, not Meta apps, would be responsible for gating age content.

I find it hard to believe that meta doesn't already have a pretty good age estimate for 95%+ of their users.

What offloading the responsibility to the app stores (or OS vendors) gives Meta is exactly that, offloading responsibility. In a future lawsuit, they can say that someone else provided them with incorrect information.

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