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Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by Forgeties79 »

MildlySerious wrote: post #111
dwedge wrote: post #108

Maybe I'm just getting old and cynical but, while I think current social media is bad for children, I'm very suspicious of the current international agreement that it's time to take action, especially with all the ID verification coming from multiple avenues

Two things can be true, and I am in the same boat. Should the next generation have their brains fried by ad-tech corporations and their algorithms? Absolutely not. Should the overdue off-ramp from this trend be the on-ramp to mass-surveillance and government overreach? Also a firm no.

They’re the oil barons of our day. They frack our data and output psychological/social pollution.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by kryogen1c »

forkerenok wrote: post #107
electric_muse wrote: post #103

The same company intentionally driving minors towards this content (despite claiming to care about them) is also lobbying in secrecy for requiring all of us to scan our ID and face in order to use our phones and computers. Their stated reason? Child safety. Their actual reason? You can figure that out.

Meta is like one giant cancer that grew a few small tumors of benign[1] nature, like some of their efforts in open source and open research (React, Llama, etc.). [1]: I could be wrong thinking those are benign.

>Meta is like one giant cancer

Cancer is a great metaphor because its a perversion of natural, healthy processes. So called social media is nearly that, but actually grotesquely unhealthy.

People are dramatically unwell when they are not social, but that unregulated process is also negative up to and including being lethal.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by Ajedi32 »

boysenberry wrote: post #144
lionkor wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of the ID verification stuff is coming FROM those companies

I’ve just been stung by iOS 26.4’s implementation of the age-gate. My only option has been to rollback with a 26.3.1 IPSW. I unlurked and made a thread last night, but I think it might be hidden due to account age: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47511919

Yep, your post and this comment were hidden. I vouched for them so they're visible now. Good luck!

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by rdevilla »

h2zizzle wrote: post #185
rdevilla wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook was the Eternal September of the Web. Netiquette died when it was made generally available, as did the culture that spawned it.

As a Millennial, I'm sad to say that it wasn't even older generations' fault, but our own (+Gen X). The tipping point was letting in normies who traded in photos and money instead of text and art.

Elitism and selectivity were actually features of the early Internet. High barriers to entry (tech savvy, literacy) ensured that there was a high signal to noise ratio, and thus you had, let's say, upper quartile participants concentrated in one (forum of) fora.

LLMs are now heralding the Eternal September of even software engineering, and now I am wondering where to hang up my Techpriest robes in search of more elite pastures.

I wonder if this is how the clergy felt once the vulgar were allowed to study scripture not in the original spiritual programming languages of Hebrew or Latin, but English.

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Post by Aurornis »

electric_muse wrote: post #103

The same company intentionally driving minors towards this content (despite claiming to care about them) is also lobbying in secrecy for requiring all of us to scan our ID and face in order to use our phones and computers. Their stated reason? Child safety. Their actual reason? You can figure that out.

> is also lobbying in secrecy for requiring all of us to scan our ID and face in order to use our phones and computers.

You’re conflating different things. The OS-level age setting proposals are not the same as scanning IDs and faces.

I’m anti age check legislation, too, but the misinformation is getting so bad that it’s starting to weaken the counter-arguments.

> Their stated reason? Child safety.

> Their actual reason? You can figure that out.

We’re commenting under an article about one $375M lawsuit over child safety and many more on the way. They are obviously being pressured for child safety by over zealous prosecutors. This is why they reversed course and removed end-to-end encryption from Instagram because it was brought up as a threat to child safety.

Also your “you can figure that out” implication doesn’t even make sense. The proposal to move age verification to the OS level would give Meta less information about the user, because the OS, not Meta apps, would be responsible for gating age content. I’m not agreeing with the proposal, but it’s easy to see that it would be more privacy-preserving than having to submit your ID to Meta.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by [deleted] »

shevy-java wrote: post #140

Meta should be disbanded for the damage it caused to mankind. Age verification tainting Linux also is heavily attributable to Meta buying legislation; systemd already quickly went that path, in order to appease their corporate-gods. Private user data to be released to random actors willy-nilly style - and the constant appeasement "no, this is not what is happening". Until it suddenly is happening precisely as people…

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