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Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by jacquesm »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #465

Other side-effects of Trump's unwise, anti-strategic hastening the downfall of hard and soft American power and respect for ego and personal gain: alternative defense pacts and nuclear proliferation. Kratocracies only respect North Korea because it has the bomb and an absurd amount of hardware pointed right at Seoul so Ukraine, Cuba, Taiwan, and Iran best get their underground tests on pronto if each desires survival…

I wonder how many countries have - reluctantly - decided to pursue nuclear bombs after many years of holding off the boat.

The next decade will be a complete disaster for non-proliferation.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by mizzao »

srean wrote: post #111
jacquesm wrote: post #3

Of course they were. The United States has never before damaged its own reputation in Europe as much as they did in the last 12 months. And the same goes for Canada, possibly worse. You don't go around threatening your allies unless you really have plans and that's why you don't elect senile old guys to positions of power.

I think learned wisdom has institutional memory of a few generations only, unless mythologized. Thus, some lessons need to be learned again and again. Some rights fought for again and again.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" ...

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by aprentic »

jacquesm wrote: post #506
aprentic wrote: post #494

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Can you show me? Is this some privileged access that you get as an investor? Its easy to verify that Motor-g does not ship outside of Ukraine. I just put 4 of their motors in a shopping cart and tried to check out. The drop down menu for destination country has a single option, Ukraine. Arctus does not list a single price on their website. That's also easy to verify. Every single product on their website only says, "…

I have both their products quite literally on my desk in front of me. All I did was mail the manufacturer, asked for a quote, got a mail in return, they sent an invoice, I paid the invoice and they sent me the goods. Just like I would expect.

You claim it works for you.

Can you demonstrate a process that others can follow?

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by nickdothutton »

jacquesm wrote: post #510
nickdothutton wrote: post #476

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The Iran war has demonstrated the US cannot adequately defend its allies in the region, regardless of bases, whose existence was predicated on them having that capability. No? All the current conflict has done is make obvious that reality.

It is interesting how many people seem to have failed to notice this absolutely crucial detail. Suddenly US bases are no longer seen as an asset but as an immediate risk.

This is what specifically caused me to make the late stage empire comment. When the flip comes, you know you are in that phase. Speaking as a Brit. Other indicators are loss of reserve currency status, inward looking elite factions (can be of any party, it is not a partisan matter), and a few other things. One might have said “changed from creditor to debtor” but almost everyone is these days!

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by aprentic »

jacquesm wrote: post #504
aprentic wrote: post #496

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This whole thread is in response to an attempt to someone trying to source parts to manufacture something in the US. If "for me" is limited to some rich guy in the Netherlands, that doesn't solve the problem "for anyone else."

Well, we could counter that and say that the whole thread here is exactly about how the US is losing its soft power position and the import situation you are facing is an integral part of that. And 'some rich guy in the Netherlands' is a nice target for you but I know plenty of people that are in other parts of Europe that seem to have no problem ordering from both of these. You asked for alternatives, you got them.…

You could counter with that or you could read what's actually in this sub-thread.

"Some rich guy in the Netherlands" isn't about being a nice target. You keep saying it works for you but you can't demonstrate any way that works for others.

I can point you to a number of places that sell any number of Chinese drone parts that don't involve a "1-900 number". You can find them on Amazon. Any number of drone vendors sell them through normal sales portals. The manufacturers will ship them directly.

A handful of companies that require a bespoke procurement process and are operating at a tiny fraction of the scale do not have any appreciable impact on the market for drone parts today.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by fulafel »

jacquesm wrote: post #507
fulafel wrote: post #483

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From military consequences pov, EU isn't a military alliance but it would of course also be attacking NATO.

The EU absolutely is a military alliance as well.

That's a heterodox interpretation. Something akin to it was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_Union but it's no more.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by srean »

mizzao wrote: post #512
srean wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think learned wisdom has institutional memory of a few generations only, unless mythologized. Thus, some lessons need to be learned again and again. Some rights fought for again and again.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" ...

Thanks. I did not know of this quote.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by srean »

srean wrote: post #312
red-iron-pine wrote: post #294

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nah the world needs to see there are consequences, and that the US can be trusted to follow through on them. this kind of corruption and extortion, if in China, would see executions, e.g. https://nordictimes.com/world/china-executes-senior-official...

Death sentences worry me because they are irreversible and can be abused and they have been, see Pakistan, Bangladesh. At most, old Singapore style corporeal punishment added to the mix perhaps.

I am very eager to understand the down votes. Corporeal punishment too harsh to allow in exceptional cases or too mild for the warcrimes and other crimes in question ?

I will not judge the responses. Just curious.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by terminalshort »

vrganj wrote: post #501
terminalshort wrote: post #473

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If you and I, the president, congress, and the judiciary agree, then yes, and that's kind of the situation regarding the laws around starting a war.

Why only these local institutions? What makes those special?

They have the power to enforce laws

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Post by terminalshort »

bdangubic wrote: post #489
terminalshort wrote: post #438

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It's been the established president since the Korean War when the US began ignoring the constitutional provision that gave congress the power to declare war. Additional examples are the Vietnam War, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq I & II, the Libyan regime change, and the current Iran conflict, and there are plenty more. The written law still states that the president does not have this power, but the actual unwritten law…

> US began ignoring the constitutional provision First, not US but Presidency and second, breaking Constitution is not very legal last time I checked but I could be wrong... /s

Yes, the US and not just the presidency. If it was just the presidency then he would have been impeached by congress for usurping their constitutional authority.
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