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Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Note that this is from a country that wouldn't exist if not for the allied countries and that the US has somehow managed to all but erase that reputation. We recognize our debt, we also recognize that this is to a country that no longer exists in a meaningful way. All we have now is multiple variations of the mob.

> How about Venezuela, Cuba, Greenland, Canada, Iran and other countries the USA seized / controls or plans to? Do Americans support this violent annexation and expansion? As a European I'm feeling threatened. Very few countries have Atom Bombs and can say NO to the USA.

Check this thread. Examples aplenty. Fortunately not even close to a majority, but yes, Americans like that exist. Europeans too by the way, but at least we have managed to mostly keep them out of power.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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That's exactly correct. Laws are not a physical entity and therefore their existence is predicated entirely on collective agreement.

So if you and I agree laws don't matter, we can go rob a bank together and it's all good?

If you and I, the president, congress, and the judiciary agree, then yes, and that's kind of the situation regarding the laws around starting a war.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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> This is not about a single President or party I've seen roughly two types of American commentators over the last year. The ones that cheer this stuff going on, which HN has plenty of, and the ones that think "come the midterms/2028/impeachment everything will go back to normal" The latter are massively mistaken, it would take decades for the US to rebuild its standing in the eyes of the world, and there is no evide…

I think Naval is right when he was making the observation that history has alternated by being determined by either individuals (think Genghis Khan, Napoleon) or larger forces at play (think socio-economic reasoning to many historical events). In this, I would say Trump is Trump (the individual) making his moves that very much go against the larger forces at play that was "business as usual". So equating him to a sym…

Neither Genghis Khan nor Napoleon were democratically elected. The fact that Trump was makes it harder to see him as the root of the problem. He may have been a catalyst, but the root cause is something else.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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Europe's weakness is mostly in their heads. The US is the most powerful military in the world, but the second most powerful military is NATO without the US. If the rest of NATO pulls together and reorganises into an effective military that doesn't depend on the US, it would be a force to be reckoned with. Europe could easily defeat Russia without outside help (look at how well Ukraine is doing with far less!), but we…

>"but the second most powerful military is NATO without the US" I am curious how much of NATO's hardware originate from the / depends on the US and and what will suddenly stop working if the US decides to break military alliance.

Short answer is: a LOT, but that's a two way street. BAE, for example, builds America's tanks (or at least their armored infantry fighting vehicles).

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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I think there is a pretty good chance US is in the late empire phase. This is not about a single President or party, or even single geopolitical event/development.

I'm sorry, this is just Republican apologetics. This is about a single party. How in the world could you possibly suggest otherwise? I'd love to hear how Biden, Obama, or Clinton got us into forever wars. Or how they threatened allies. Or how they destroyed our trade or deal-making reputation. Where are the Democrat newscasters saying we should invade Canada? The figure heads calling for internment camps? Are we all…

The Iran war has demonstrated the US cannot adequately defend its allies in the region, regardless of bases, whose existence was predicated on them having that capability. No?

All the current conflict has done is make obvious that reality.

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I didn't understand the question, can you expand on it? My interpretation is that you're asking "which Holocaust won't survive historical revisionism", and there are two options (both are red flags): - you're deliberately trying to dilute the designation of Holocaust, by stating there are other "holocausts", by which you're probably referring to other genocides - when in reality the Holocaust is the name given to the…

I am questioning the idea that there is one "the holocaust". I understand that is not a very popular notion at some places. (As I anticipated, here comes the downvotes) Being at the other end of colonialism, we are aware of many holocausts and acknowledge them if not equally we don't identify any one as 'the holocaust'. Don't get me wrong, I suspect our values mostly agree. I literally have a 3ft by 3ft Anne Frank's…

Ok, thank you for clarifying because I thought you were coming from a different place.

Well I disagree.

I don't think the Holocaust took away the word "holocaust" and stripped it off from it's meaning, and from being able to be used to describe other events. I also don't think that was the intent behind the choice.

So much so that I've capitalized the Holocaust.

If it's the right choice or not to name it, I trust the institutions that studied this event.

I also don't think it takes away from the crimes against humanity and genocide of other cultures, some from colonialism, others from racial and ethnic hate.

There's still genocide and colonialism happening to this day, for example at the hands of Russia we have the current genocide in Ukraine and attempt to colonize it. Or what's happening in Gaza.

Maybe it's a cultural difference, but the word "genocide" to describe these crimes strikes me as a very loaded and meaningful word, and accurate word - the Holocaust was a genocide, it carries everything that the Holocaust, Holodomor, native American, Chechens, Armenian genocide, and many other cultures suffered.

Also genocide not only has a definition as a word, but also has a specific legal definition.

While holocaust has its own definition which I don't think it applies to all genocides and crimes against humanity.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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The F-35 is mentioned in the article as being readied for the defense of Greenland. I wonder what the 'easter-eggs' Danes would've found out about it if they went up against the US. (I think I know, it has to do with how its 'stealth' works.)

In a way that would be great. Then we could grow up a little bit faster.

Yeah at some point we need to know.

Re: Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

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> Thank God for the French France has nowhere the military power to resist a country like the US. They have not invested in the military for a very long time and most of their equipment is completely outdated.

Ah but alas: have you considered that the US is increasingly run by actual idiots? It turns out even Iran has the power to resist a country like the US.

Iran is no joke. Everybody knew it and yet they went full ahead with it for some reason.

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> Thank God for the French France has nowhere the military power to resist a country like the US. They have not invested in the military for a very long time and most of their equipment is completely outdated.

France has completely sovereign nukes and the only first-strike nuclear doctrine in the world. It has the military power to resist any country.

France is never going to send a nuke to the US.
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