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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Normalizing state-sanctioned extra-judicial murder along with a message of compliance? Maybe go find videos of where compliance got people killed because the fact is the slave catchers enjoy brutality and murder.

I'm not normalizing it, it's already normalized. We have accepted this kind of policing forever. Nothing in Minnesota has changed the game, except masks maybe, since they're being doxxed.

Not since George Floyd and certainly not with masks.

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Enough of them to give rise to the term "algospeak" which means using words like "unalive" in place of "kill" to avoid automated censorship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algospeak Meanwhile you can report a bot who's posted 20+ comments under a video to advertise illegal drugs and all of the reports and subsequent appeals will consistently come back as "No violation found".

This has been happening for 10+ years on e.g. YouTube, you can't say certain words in the video or mention them in the title or you get demonetized. Nothing to do with China.

>> All the tech was already put in place by China. All that the U.S. had to do was change the filtered words.

> I've never seen reports of censorship like this on TikTok before Ellison bought it.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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> the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles I'm sorry, did I miss something? Is this something that's happened (ever)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbMRywfYiM8&t=105s e: 1. tracking string removed per request. 2. it's a video of a WCCO news (local MSP TV station) segment which shows an armored vehicle pushing protesters out of the way.

You may wish to remove the ?si=… tracking string from your URL. It might also be worth editing in some context: right now, it's a bare YouTube link (which I don't particularly want to click on). Is this footage? A video essay? A pop song?

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The problem I was listening to a historian discuss the other day is that we're stuck in a cycle of: 1. Republican breaks norms/laws 2. Democrat cleans up after, but by *not* breaking norms, doesn't go far enough to actually undo all the damage 3. We end up with a more broken governmental configuration, and head back to (1) They said this pattern goes back to Nixon.

Theres a reason 99% of actions taken by democrats are just "strongly worded letters" and how they consistently come up with the exact small number of Democrats needed to push legislation and bills that the party proposes to be against. Most Democratic politicians are in on the game too. Its all just political theater and their in-group rotates out who gets to be the bad guys. Yes Democrats clean-up by not breaking no…

I think this take is on the cynical side. A more charitable interpretation would be what they say (but maybe I'm being naive): that they don't want to break the rules to fix what someone else broke by breaking the rules.

I'm not sure what you mean by "they consistently come up with the exact small number of Democrats needed to push legislation and bills that the party proposes to be against" -- if you mean the Republicans manage to get some Democrats to "switch sides" -- it's important to remember that this is how everything used to get done. Check the old votes: party-line was less common back in the day. And even now, Democrats tolerate members with differing opinions far more than the GOP does, and it shows in their voting patterns.

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The U.S. government has not publicly presented any concrete evidence showing that TikTok has actually been used to influence US public opinion in line with CCP policy.

Wasn't there something about the algorithm pushing brainrot to US audiences while Chinese users got more educational/high quality content? Turning Americans stupid might count.

China has media laws that would make much of what appears on any sort of Western media platform illegal, so they're obviously going to get a very different experience in China. From anything that might violate social ethics, to clickbait titles - all illegal in China. They've even cracked down on overly effeminate men - 'girly guns' [1] and a million other things I'm not listing here. Basically Western style social media simply is impossible there.

In any case, entirely Western oriented platforms also push brainrot to Western viewers, so I don't think there's any conspiracy so much as just cultural differences.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niang_pao

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Anecdotally my feed dramatically shifted. My politics are very leftwing, and prior to the transfer virtually every video was discourse on ICE. Following the transfer, I get content that is all over the place. At one point, I got 8-9 tiktoks in a row of obviously bot-created rightwing text. At least on the surface level, I could believe this is just a full algorithm reset and they are having problems with it. But even…

As a former employee in TikTok US Data Services, the division that was stated working to separate the US TikTok service and infrastructure, I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the algorithm reset theory, because the reset this time is qualitatively unlike the others. Since 2020, when the first Trump administration attempted to ban TikTok, work has been ongoing to separate out the TikTok US business in all aspects from…

Will US folks still get other nation's video's? Will other nations get US videos?

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Anecdotal to myself. I shamefully sometimes use TikTok, I particularly like recipe clips and even I noticed something in the last week, most noticeably around this weekend where the algorithm for recommendations changed. It’s like they completely wiped my preferences. I try not to watch anything political so I cannot say much about censorship of content but something was noticeable in the last week.

I noticed exactly the same thing. I don't recall which day it started (probably this past Sunday), but it was as if a switch flipped. My For You Page no longer has anything to do with my preferences. I'm familiar with Tiktok nudging me in different directions in the past, but I was always able to steer it back to videos I was interested in within 10-15 minutes. Three days later, and it's as if Tiktok not only has forgotten everything about my watch history, it also hasn't learned. That said, it doesn't seem to be entirely about politics. I had a mix of political/protest related content, native plant content, and woodworking videos on my For You Page. None of those are showing up for me.

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How is TikTok able to screen this en masse? Are they going after tags? Political issues aside, I am really interested in the technical background in this.

Every large social network has fairly advanced mass screening setups for advertiser-sensitive topics. They just need to change the configs. On YouTube for example they will transcribe audio and run OCR on text to flag sensitive topics using MLP in order to flag certain topics (ex: Palestine/Israel), and prevent most ads from being shown (and demonetize and down rank).

Basically every large advertiser requires this so it's pretty trivial to turn on.

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Nothing. These apps are mental poison. They're designed to be addictive. Healthy adults don't use TikTok or any equivalent.

Really? I have bookmarked: - 758 posts on home construction and interior design - 487 posts on cooking - 58 posts on relationship health - 605 posts on leadership - 58 posts on fitness - 19 posts on woodworking , and countless others on travel and dining. Would you like to restate your claim with more nuance? I have collected a vast amounts of knowledge through TikTok. Their algorithm is insanely good at capturing wh…

Have you learned 758 things about home construction and interior design? Bookmarking certainly isn't learning. I should know; my collection of bookmarks contains countless papers, documentation, and tutorials, yet I've hardly glanced at most of them and the majority will remain in that state for eternity.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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The only thing I could come up with, assuming this isn’t a technical glitch, is that TikTok already had the infra to silence anything they want on the platform and as soon as the keys were handed over they turned that filter up to 100%

Sure, but are they running audio recognition and image recognition models on each upload just to classify it?

Social media platforms have been doing that for years to keep advertisers happy, so yes.
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