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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by derbOac »

duskdozer wrote: post #291
derbOac wrote: post #49

Honestly I'm surprised people don't jump ship more often with social media platforms. With TikTok this is kind of new news, but there have been related problems with it that have been pretty obvious for some time. The same with X and, before that, Facebook. TikTok has never worked for me though so maybe there's no real equivalent alternative. Maybe time to make one if not? To me it says something about the public, bu…

Are you really surprised? I find the interest entirely unrelatable, but I'm not surprised. They tune these platforms for addiction. I mean, I don't even use them but I still immediately recognize their branding video-end sounds just from random exposure here or there. (I hate it)

I'm surprised in the sense that it seems a few times we've been exposed to various problems arising from social media manipulation or censorship — of the right and left variety actually — so I'd think people might be more sensitive to it at this point.

Part of it too I guess is my personal experience with people I know who will complain about a platform repeatedly (in terms of algorithmic political manipulation) and then turn around and continue to use it voluminously, sending links to stuff on the platform over and over again, etc. (not speaking just about TikTok in particular, with a few sites). It has this feeling similar to if they complained about how awful a food item tastes, and expressed concerns about it being poison, but then continued to binge eat it daily.

Maybe they figure it's just inevitable or something, or maybe you're right about reinforcement contingencies. Maybe it's as simple as that.

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Post by rurp »

mekdoonggi wrote: post #138
iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #126

Allow me to offer some words of wisdom. If you help building weapons to be used against $currently_designated_bad_people, you can rest assured that given enough time, those weapons will be used against you. I am watching all this with a mild sense of bemusement.

A NYT columnist Jamelle Bouie suggested (in jest) that the next Democrat administration send armed IRS agents to gated communities in Florida, to "investigate tax fraud". But this is exactly why all citizens should be concerned about the infringement of rights happening in Minnesota. If it is allowed without prosecution, you are next.

Right, if a future democratic president starts sending masked government thugs out to assault and kidnap American citizens we all know that 100% of the people who are defending the current ICE atrocities will suddenly be outraged about government tyranny.

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Post by Fraterkes »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #253
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…

You don’t think that there could be purely organic reasons why content showing US hypocricy might be immensely popular in South America?

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Post by otterdude »

direwolf20 wrote: post #436
megolodan wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beyond federated systems, P2P systems seem to have a strong advantage here in identifying bad actors. Ranking posts/comments by the exponential of inverse IPAddress-post-frequency would solve bad actors posting behind VPNs/proxies like evil bot farms / state actors and marketers. Real users have their own IP address, and IP addresses are expensive like $20-50 a month which would make mocking traffic an extremely expe…

I think it would do the opposite. The regular user posts 5 times per day, but the spammer has bought access to 65536 IP addresses and posts once from each, boosting his posts 5x. And the town in South America with one CGNAT IP address to go around gets censored.

The 65K IP addresses cost 1.638M dollars, thats alot more than they would spend doing the exact same thing today.

The idea is to accept bad actors but make it more expensive and also you can directly identify cliques by IP ect.

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Post by fogzen »

mistercheph wrote: post #254
pydry wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a large outside power is intent on screwing with your populace I think the only way to really stop it is with diplomacy or a crackdown on free speech. Authoritarianism has been starting to become normalized because China and Russia are increasingly able to mess with our society in the same way our leaders always messed with theirs.

True, true, so true. Actually when a large outside power is screwing with your populace you gotta crackdown on the whole constitution. Yep, that's the only solution i think, sign of the times, I guess!

The U.S. government has not publicly presented any concrete evidence showing that TikTok has actually been used to influence US public opinion in line with CCP policy.

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Post by axus »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #253
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…

> Content about the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles, killing people in Venezuela with bombs, and threatening Greenland, straight to top of feed.

Aren't these recent events? A better example would be showing US atrocities from the last 50 years, but not Chinese.

Or hiding the suffering of Ukranian and Iranian peoples.

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Post by fogzen »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #253
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…

The U.S. government has not publicly presented any concrete evidence showing that TikTok has actually been used to influence US public opinion in line with CCP policy.

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Post by gadders »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #411
gadders wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That is ridiculous, Republicans are sending in poorly trained masked federal agents "en masse" into liberal, being as rough and visible as possible. That is the very definition of sh*t stirring. This is just what MAGA wanted: to beat up and shoot some libs.

No, they want to deport 8million illegals. They'd be more than happy if they self-deported tomorrow.
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