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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by autoexec »

fogzen wrote: post #459
dataviz1000 wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…

The U.S. government has not publicly presented any concrete evidence showing that TikTok has actually been used to influence US public opinion in line with CCP policy.

Wasn't there something about the algorithm pushing brainrot to US audiences while Chinese users got more educational/high quality content? Turning Americans stupid might count.

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Post by Almad »

NewUser76312 wrote: post #471

Meta comment: it seems like you can only voice a particular direction on the politic topic of immigration enforcement on this thread without getting downvoted. The opinion is obvious because everyone automatically jumps to malice as opposed to incompetence as the prevailing theory for the article's claim. I had a condescending response from a HN mod the other day telling me that HN isn't all that left wing, just a 's…

From what I know, politologists are analyzing the situation in US from a perspective of "mid intensity civil war".

So what you're writing is aligned with tactics you'd expect...?

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Post by parthdesai »

cheeseomlit wrote: post #497
parthdesai wrote: post #491

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I think you're being sarcastic, but just in case you're not > Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic manipulation of information—including facts, half-truths, or lies—to influence public opinion, attitudes, and behaviors toward a specific cause, ideology, or agenda.

>including facts

> deliberate, systematic manipulation of information

And, what are we doing with those facts? We're manipulating them lol

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Post by felixgallo »

nomdep wrote: post #444
felixgallo wrote: post #37

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"it became clear that there was no conspiratorial algorithmic suppression". Yes, the Twitter files showed that the suppression was done mostly by humans.

the twitter files, what a laugh. Can you point to a particular part of the twitter files that was not obviously overblown, wrong, or subsequently thoroughly discredited that supports your claim of conspiratorial right wing suppression? Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files

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Post by sneak »

parthdesai wrote: post #491
sneak wrote: post #477

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Propaganda can be entirely factual. In fact, the best propaganda is.

I think you're being sarcastic, but just in case you're not > Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic manipulation of information—including facts, half-truths, or lies—to influence public opinion, attitudes, and behaviors toward a specific cause, ideology, or agenda.

I am not being sarcastic at all. It is a common misconception that propaganda means lies. Propaganda is information designed to get you to believe a certain thing or feel a certain way. The best propaganda uses entirely truthful statements to manipulate your beliefs and emotions.

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guywithahat wrote: post #244
iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #126

Allow me to offer some words of wisdom. If you help building weapons to be used against $currently_designated_bad_people, you can rest assured that given enough time, those weapons will be used against you. I am watching all this with a mild sense of bemusement.

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Post by Almad »

IIAOPSW wrote: post #439
js8 wrote: post #133

When I was 11, on 17th Nov 1989, in Czechoslovakia, my father was watching the evening news on our (black and white) TV, as usual. There was a protest and the state media was reporting on it. When the reporter said, "our camera broke down and we can only show black and white pictures", my father IMMEDIATELY jumped up and angrily said, "that's bs, you don't want to show how they [the protesting students] got beaten up…

Dare I say, the Revolution will not be Televised.

That's from the good old days where truth mattered. Like how many action movies are about "getting the truth out" where that act in itself brings consequences, cut, happy ending?

Compare with now: revolution may be televised, but its spread not amplified and its authenticity denied. And if you have sufficient tribalism, it will not make a dent.

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Post by epistasis »

lbrito wrote: post #433
js8 wrote: post #133

When I was 11, on 17th Nov 1989, in Czechoslovakia, my father was watching the evening news on our (black and white) TV, as usual. There was a protest and the state media was reporting on it. When the reporter said, "our camera broke down and we can only show black and white pictures", my father IMMEDIATELY jumped up and angrily said, "that's bs, you don't want to show how they [the protesting students] got beaten up…

You don't understand. Its different: _they_ were doing it. The Bad Guys. Now _we_, the Good Guys, are doing it. Therefore, the thing itself is no longer Bad - it is Good. The comment above was ironic. I have to specify because supposedly intelligent people really think that way: https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955

In extreme cases: "I’m not licking the boot. It’s my boot. I voted for it. I’m the one stomping…" [0]

People imagine that they are part of the in-group, and not the out-group that gets the boot for exercising basic rights that the in-group gets. And perhaps they are, if they have enough money and power. But ultimately most of these people know that they are not in power but that as long as they see the boot stomping on others, and they can imagine a boundary that keeps them in the in-group (skin color, political ideology, gender, etc.), they approve as long as that group boundary is clear.

Now, when that boundary begins to blur, and people understand that the person getting the boot could be themselves, then attitudes start to change.

[0] https://bsky.app/profile/joshuaeakle.com/post/3mdfsnpy57k26

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

Gud wrote: post #398
xanthor wrote: post #225

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How do you know that conclusion is not the product of brainwashing? MKULTRA is just what we know about with certainty.

I am an open minded, well traveled man. I disagree with the powerful.

> I am an open minded, well traveled man. I disagree with the powerful.

This kind of narrative is actually one of the more popular forms of propaganda.

"We are the side of the revolutionaries. The status quo is wrong but only about the things we want to change and not the things we want to stay the same. Powerful people are our opponents."

All politics is about opposing powerful people, because if they weren't powerful then it would be easy to defeat them. But there are different groups of powerful people, with different interests, and then it rather matters which ones you align yourself with on a given issue. And if it's always the same ones then you're doing partisanship rather than reasoning.

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