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Nothing. These apps are mental poison. They're designed to be addictive. Healthy adults don't use TikTok or any equivalent.

What do you suggest then to stay informed for those without televisions?

A news subscription

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It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…

> the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles I'm sorry, did I miss something? Is this something that's happened (ever)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbMRywfYiM8&t=105s

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1. tracking string removed per request.

2. it's a video of a WCCO news (local MSP TV station) segment which shows an armored vehicle pushing protesters out of the way.

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What you're describing here (ironically) is unironically the basis for Western political thought. What I'm referring to here is idealism [1]. Whether it's European colonial powers or the US, the basis for foreign intervention is, quite simply, that we are the Good Guys. Why? Because we're the Good Guys. Even slavery was justified in Christianity by converting the heathen and saving their immortal souls, a fundamental…

It's one thing to analyze the world with this lens, which is perfectly fine, as long as it's part of a bigger analysis. But materialist views have never stopped the boot. Materialist political ideology has produced some of the finest jack boots history has seen.

Hey, that's because _their_ materialistic view is faulty . _Our_ materialistic is perfect. Now, if only i have the power...

/s

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What argument are we having? I see someone struggling to hold their own words steady, and you claiming that I am proclaiming something when I only mentioned it because of this exact problem. I do not really think of myself as left or right within the current American political system. I do not follow either political party, and my opinions often zig zag across existing party lines. If anything, maybe “centrist” is th…

He is accusing you of not beign "leftist enough", which he regards the same as beign a traitor to the "good" side

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#555

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Conservative and progressive groups.

Come on now, you didn't expect someone linking to that trash website to actually read any of it did you? Grokipedia tries to downplay the progressive part but does still mention it.

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> Which used to be seen as "Ew, China has their own version? Crazy censorship" It used to be marketed as that by "China evil" people. Western politicians have always seen this as an arms race. They claim infinite brutal censorship and suppression in China in order to claim that not having it here is a strategic disadvantage. Meanwhile, China's "social credit" is just like a US credit score, which in most countries is…

> This is completely bipartisan, both US parties take turns shitting on their two greatest enemies: the Bill of Rights Ignoring the magnitude to draw a false equivalence is a great way to discredit your position. Neither party is perfect but only one of them is denying the full personhood of over half the population, having armed men threaten the public with lethal violence over constitutionally-protected activities,…

Police in all states systemically violate it. MAGA ramped it up to 11 though.

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I think you're being sarcastic, but just in case you're not > Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic manipulation of information—including facts, half-truths, or lies—to influence public opinion, attitudes, and behaviors toward a specific cause, ideology, or agenda.

I am not being sarcastic at all. It is a common misconception that propaganda means lies. Propaganda is information designed to get you to believe a certain thing or feel a certain way. The best propaganda uses entirely truthful statements to manipulate your beliefs and emotions.

One of the best examples of this were the endless photos and information about stocked store shelves, filled with fresh goods at dirt cheap prices, during the Cold War. In general truth is the best propaganda, because when you lie there's always a rubber-band effect when somebody realizes, sooner or later, that they've been had.

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Freedom of speech has literally never prevented a private company from controlling the content on its platform.

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You mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files

These twitter files:

"After the first set of files was published, various technology and media journalists said that the reported evidence demonstrated little more than Twitter's policy team struggling with difficult decisions, but resolving such matters swiftly. Some conservatives said that the documents demonstrated what they called Twitter's liberal bias...

In June 2023, lawyers working for Twitter contested many of the claims made in the Twitter Files in court. According to CNN, 'the filing by Musk's own corporate lawyers represents a step-by-step refutation of some of the most explosive claims to come out of the Twitter Files and that in some cases have been promoted by Musk himself.'

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The nothingburger Twitter Files?

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

#559

State-owned social media?

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You mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files

These twitter files:

"After the first set of files was published, various technology and media journalists said that the reported evidence demonstrated little more than Twitter's policy team struggling with difficult decisions, but resolving such matters swiftly. Some conservatives said that the documents demonstrated what they called Twitter's liberal bias...

In June 2023, lawyers working for Twitter contested many of the claims made in the Twitter Files in court. According to CNN, 'the filing by Musk's own corporate lawyers represents a step-by-step refutation of some of the most explosive claims to come out of the Twitter Files and that in some cases have been promoted by Musk himself.'

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The nothingburger Twitter Files?

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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TikTok is hugely influential, and the younger people they're trying to influence don't read newspapers and don't hang out on X or Instagram (both of which also censor certain political content). https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1240737627/meta-limit-politic... https://www.reddit.com/r/OptimistsUnite/comments/1i9zf5u/rco... https://arxiv.org/html/2508.13375v1

I am willing to bet that the vast majority of young people are very much aware of what ICE has been doing. Do you believe otherwise?

Surely you know how things work at scale.

If you introduce friction with something that millions or more use, a few % peeling off or missing things means tens of thousands of people are impacted. And tiktok has a hell of a lot more than a million users.

I still don’t get what you’re trying to say or why you’re downplaying this.

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