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https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shoppin... Make sure you disable the shopping lens before searching in public. Amazon searches can be NSFW! Don't search for analyze in a school or Saudi Arabia. I think that this is unacceptable default behaviour but currently seems to be a WON'T FIX.

Better yet, make sure you remove Unity altogether. I've been using Quantal since beta 1, and while Cinnamon wasn't so stable for me, Gnome 3.6 works smoothly.

Unity is the main thing that makes me prefer Ubuntu.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

#122
post #37

"Avoid the pain of Windows 8" And say hello to the pain of not finding suitable drivers for half your devices.

For the last few years, with the exception of a cheap, crappy handheld scanner, I've spent about ten times as much time downloading and installing drivers on my partners various Windows and OS X laptops than I have spent doing the same on Ubuntu.

Drivers for our HP printer for example? 200MB+ download for OS X and Windows. Works the moment you plug in the USB cable on Ubuntu and have been for years.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

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'Free' and 'polite' are not mutually exclusive. The first pillar of free software is not '$0 free', it's 'respect'.

I don't understand how can Linux folks feel any respect for Microsoft after what they tried to do to Linux community a couple of years ago...

"They started it" - Is no reason to be disrespectful or rude. Instead they should show by example how a to act.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

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post #37

"Avoid the pain of Windows 8" And say hello to the pain of not finding suitable drivers for half your devices.

I haven't had a problem finding a driver since I installed 8.10 on my netbook and had to compile madwifi from source. The problem went away with 9.04 and I haven't had any issues since then.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

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Just did the upgrade from 12.04 and most things worked fine, but I lost the sound output in the way. After a quick search on the ubuntu forums, I found the way to restore it, and voila, sound is back and everything is working like before. A little strange, though. If I expect any issue, it's probably not about the sound...

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

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"Avoid the pain of Windows 8." I've been running Windows 8 since the RTM went to MSDN. I adjusted to the cheese-moving pain of Windows 8 within a week. Four months into Ubuntu with Unity I eventually adjusted to the cheese-moving pain of Unity by switching to Mint. Ubuntu has no leg to stand on when it comes to new versions of an OS making unwanted changes to UX. [Before anyone chimes in here, I know you can set up U…

Mint's packaging and documentation is significantly worse than Ubuntu's. There is no reason to use Mint and not Debian or Ubuntu, except that you are interested in Cinnamon (which I have never once found to work)

Right now on Debian, every desktop sucks out-of-the-box - I've been bouncing around them trying to find something that will satisfy my preference for a traditional desktop. As Debian doesn't do much in the way of UI customisation, so this pretty much means every core desktop sucks at the moment without a downstream maintainer nailing it down properly. XFCE is a little coarse though it would be usable... if only it didn't stop my laptop from properly resuming from sleep (other environs don't do this).

I've used Mint's LMDE distribution and liked the desktop in it, but the community around it doesn't seem too big, which makes me a little nervous.

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Ubuntu 12.10 still doesn't recognise my external Dell monitor which works without hitch in OSX. That aside, upgrading seems to have gone smoothly.

'OSX' being the operative term here. Windows is an entirely different kettle of fish. If your hardware is considered too outmoded or somehow slipped by the Windows driver dragnet, you're SOL. There are very few times I have installed Windows and _not_ had to go to another computer to get the network/wifi driver onto a USB (or CD!) and transfer it to the Windows machine so I can get the rest of the missing drivers. Ha…

A friend of mine was so sick of the XP installer's failure to do network cards that he made a 'super-installer' .iso which was the basic XP installer plus 676 different network card drivers. "This CD will find your network card under XP".

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Now Available

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I'm not sure if I agree with your finger pointing. Because it doesn't matter whose fault it is. Lack of graphics card drivers, printer drivers, etc were always the fault of the vendors, but users don't care about that. They just don't use Linux because "my printer won't work" or "it's a hassle to setup my printer". But, again, all of this isn't much of an issue anymore. (Also Google loves Linux and particularly Ubunt…

Ubuntu doesn't have the market share to justify vendors allocating resources to develop drivers for it. Not sure how that puts the vendor at "fault", it's just simple economics.

Vendors don't develop drivers for 'ubuntu', they develop them for 'linux'.
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