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Post by Sharlin »

kordlessagain wrote: post #103
nelox wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds like a real cross-cultural mismatch, but it’s doing too much work with nationality alone. In a lot of Indian (and broader South Asian) work contexts, questioning instructions can be read as challenging authority or admitting incompetence, so people default to executing without asking. That’s often reinforced by education systems and contractor dynamics where producing something quickly feels safer than pa…

> questioning instructions can be read as challenging authority or admitting incompetence, so people default to executing without asking That’s ego, assuming doing is the value, not doing RIGHT. Doing alone has almost zero value.

Way to be culturally blind.

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Post by regenschutz »

gosub100 wrote: post #224

I think this is the perfect application of a micro payment service. Each PR must be signed with a nominal amount of money, say $0.15 give or take. You send in a commit, with no expectation to get it back.

I think a deposit would be better then. You make a deposit of ¢15 for each issue and PR you open, and then the maintainers can decide to give it back to you if it was opened in good-faith/useful/merged/whatever policy they decide on.

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Post by latexr »

david_allison wrote: post #218
latexr wrote: post #50

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It’s still ongoing. The difference is they now no longer offer t-shirts (at one point they planted trees instead, unsure if that still happens), and projects must opt-in.

They offered T-Shirts in 2025

Thank you for the correction. I thought they had stopped that but I see you’re right. Seems to be more restrictive, though.

https://hacktoberfest.com/participation/

> Swag - Get an exclusive Hacktoberfest T-Shirt, but its only for ‘Super Contributors’ who contribute 6 accepted PR/MRs to a worthy repository. (T&Cs Apply | Valid only for the first 10,000 contributors completing 6 PR/MR)

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Post by bakugo »

koliber wrote: post #212
freakynit wrote: post #126

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Indian here (~15+ years in tech). I've seen this behavior a lot, and unfortunately, I did some of this myself earlier in my career. Based on my own experience, here are a few reasons (could be a lot more): 1. Unlike most developed countries, in India (and many other develping countries), people in authority are expected to be respected unconditinally(almost). Questioning a manager, teacher, or senior is often seen as…

I've seen an interesting behavior in India. If I ask someone on the street for directions, they will always give me an answer, even if they don't know. If they don't know, they'll make something up. This was strange. I asked a lot of Indian people about it and they said that it has to do with "saving face". Saying "I don't know" is a disgraceful thing. So if someone does not know the answer, they make something up in…

> This was strange. I asked a lot of Indian people about it and they said that it has to do with "saving face". Saying "I don't know" is a disgraceful thing.

I've recently learned that this particular type of "saving face" has a name: "izzat". Look that up if you want to know more.

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Post by bdsa »

egorfine wrote: post #231
samiv wrote: post #217

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I used to work with colleagues from China in contracting and I had the same experience with them. If they don't know something they have hard time saying that they don't know something or don't understand something. Ficticious Example could be Q: is this car red? A: it's not green. Q: yeah I know it's not green. But is it red? A: today is Thursday. One thing I leaned it's not worth pressing forward and causing a scen…

> it's not worty pressing forward and causing a scene Tell me more. Why?

Probably because they find it uncomfortable to be pressed and the net result is a less productive relationship.

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Post by mnw21cam »

spicyusername wrote: post #166
mixedbit wrote: post #156

Long time ago Sourceforge and then GitHub promoted into the current default the model of open source distribution which is not sustainable and I doubt it is something that the founding fathers of Free Software/Open Source had in mind. Open source licenses are about freedom of using and modifying software. The movement grew out of frustration that commercial software cannot be freely improved and fixed by the user to…

has nothing to do with open source long time ago Sourceforge is almost 30 years old. GitHub almost 20. How long does something have to be done a certain way for it to be "to do with"? I would say we're now two generations deep of software engineers who came up with open source software commonly being mediated through public issue trackers. That isn't to say it needs to stay that way, just that I think a lot of people…

Thanks for making me feel old.

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Post by thrtythreeforty »

gosub100 wrote: post #224

I think this is the perfect application of a micro payment service. Each PR must be signed with a nominal amount of money, say $0.15 give or take. You send in a commit, with no expectation to get it back.

I think this idea doesn't go far enough. If it's money that's motivating slop, fine - let's make it about money. $50 to submit a bug report. If it's legitimate, we send you back $60; the judgement is on the curl maintainers' honor. If it wastes time, well, at least the curl maintainer gets a steak dinner.

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Post by bilekas »

anArbitraryOne wrote: post #177

Nice. But it deters people like me who aren't totally confident in sending reports, trading false positives for false negatives

> it deters people like me who aren't totally confident in sending reports

This is by design, you shouldn't be submitting reports on anything less than certainty. It's not the maintainers responsibility to prove out your idea. It's yours, and when you're sure, reproduceable, and documented it, then you can submit it.

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