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Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by blitzar »

compounding_it wrote: post #29
nchmy wrote: post #11

I've been helping a bit with OWASP documentation lately and there's been a surge of Indian students eagerly opening nonsensical issues and PRs and all of the communication and code is clearly 100% LLMs. They'll even talk back and forth with each other. It's a huge headache for the maintainers. I suggested following what Ghostty does where everything starts as discussions - only maintainers create issues, and PRs can…

>Indian students Resume glorification and LinkedIn / GitHub profile attention do that. I am seeing a lot of people coming up with perceived knowledge that's just LLM echo chambers. Code they contribute comes straight out of LLMs. This is generally fine as long as they know what it does. But when you ask them to make some changes, some are as lost as ever. Torvalds was right, code maintenance is going to be a headache…

> Resume glorification and LinkedIn / GitHub profile attention do that.

I wondered why people would video themselves going around slapping strangers in public then shouting "its just a prank bro" - turns out it works.

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by wink »

yawboakye wrote: post #27
mikkupikku wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, reminds me of that free T-shirt contest thing... Submit crap PRs to random FOSS projects for a chance of winning a shirt, what could go wrong? https://ongchinhwee.me/shitoberfest-ruin-hacktoberfest/

worked well for a bit. but then the program became popular and that’s when it hit the curb. terrible loss, imo. it was a brilliant idea to encourage open source work with a token reward. it relied heavily on good intentions, which quickly disappeared with the popularity.

I have one of these and it was really nice in the first 1-n years.

People gamified it and then it sucked, but the idea wasn't so bad. One would expect people would not stoop this low for a free T-Shirt.

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by blitzar »

yawboakye wrote: post #27
mikkupikku wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, reminds me of that free T-shirt contest thing... Submit crap PRs to random FOSS projects for a chance of winning a shirt, what could go wrong? https://ongchinhwee.me/shitoberfest-ruin-hacktoberfest/

worked well for a bit. but then the program became popular and that’s when it hit the curb. terrible loss, imo. it was a brilliant idea to encourage open source work with a token reward. it relied heavily on good intentions, which quickly disappeared with the popularity.

this is why we cant have nice things

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by causalscience »

nchmy wrote: post #11

I've been helping a bit with OWASP documentation lately and there's been a surge of Indian students eagerly opening nonsensical issues and PRs and all of the communication and code is clearly 100% LLMs. They'll even talk back and forth with each other. It's a huge headache for the maintainers. I suggested following what Ghostty does where everything starts as discussions - only maintainers create issues, and PRs can…

> Indian students

Is this cultural? I ran a small business some years ago (later failed) and was paying for contract work to various people. At the I perceived the pattern that Indian contractors would never ever ask for clarifications, would never say they didn't know something, would never say they didn't understand something, etc. Instead they just ran with whatever they happened to have in their mind, until I called them out. And if they did something poorly and I didn't call them out they'd never do back as far as I can tell and wonder "did I get it right? Could I have done better?". I don't get this attitude - at my day job I sometimes "run with it" but I periodically check with my manager to make sure "hey this is what you wanted right?". There's little downside to this.

Your comment reminded me of my experience, in the sense that they're both a sort of "fake it till you make it".

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by thephyber »

normie3000 wrote: post #28
nchmy wrote: post #11

I've been helping a bit with OWASP documentation lately and there's been a surge of Indian students eagerly opening nonsensical issues and PRs and all of the communication and code is clearly 100% LLMs. They'll even talk back and forth with each other. It's a huge headache for the maintainers. I suggested following what Ghostty does where everything starts as discussions - only maintainers create issues, and PRs can…

I've seen this - it's tiring even at low volume. Goes something like: Someone creates a garbage issue. Someone else asks to be assigned. Someone from the project may say "we don't assign issues" (this step has zero effect over later steps). Someone else submits a PR. Maybe someone else will submit another PR. Maintainers then agonise how they can close issues and PR(s) without being rude or discouraging to genuine ef…

Those maintainers should be using LLMs to crate their breakup letter with the Issue/PR submitters!

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by nchmy »

moralestapia wrote: post #24
nchmy wrote: post #11

I've been helping a bit with OWASP documentation lately and there's been a surge of Indian students eagerly opening nonsensical issues and PRs and all of the communication and code is clearly 100% LLMs. They'll even talk back and forth with each other. It's a huge headache for the maintainers. I suggested following what Ghostty does where everything starts as discussions - only maintainers create issues, and PRs can…

>Indian students How do you know this?

Because their usernames are Indian and profiles have links to Indian universities, and sometimes descriptions of the 101 classes they're currently taking. That doesn't stop them from saying things like "I see this sort of vulnerability all the time"

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by embedding-shape »

Ah, brings back memories when TPB did something similar to when MPAA and their "associates" emailed them. I think this is probably the best page where one could still see them: https://web.archive.org/web/20111223101839/http://thepirateb...

I'm not sure it helped in the end, afaik they did it since like 2003 until some years after the raid, but it still seemed like they didn't get the message and kept trying anyways, which from their perspective makes sense but still.

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by normie3000 »

moralestapia wrote: post #24
nchmy wrote: post #11

I've been helping a bit with OWASP documentation lately and there's been a surge of Indian students eagerly opening nonsensical issues and PRs and all of the communication and code is clearly 100% LLMs. They'll even talk back and forth with each other. It's a huge headache for the maintainers. I suggested following what Ghostty does where everything starts as discussions - only maintainers create issues, and PRs can…

>Indian students How do you know this?

"Students" sounds very speculative. "Indian" likely based on usernames, which are often a South Asian first name followed by a random integer.

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by blitzar »

skeptic_ai wrote: post #19
nchmy wrote: post #11

I've been helping a bit with OWASP documentation lately and there's been a surge of Indian students eagerly opening nonsensical issues and PRs and all of the communication and code is clearly 100% LLMs. They'll even talk back and forth with each other. It's a huge headache for the maintainers. I suggested following what Ghostty does where everything starts as discussions - only maintainers create issues, and PRs can…

Why you don’t just put an AI guardian to close or to ask them to change the story. Or shadow ban

the only way to stop a bad guy with a llm is with a good guy with a llm

Re: We will ban you and ridicule you in public if you waste our time on crap reports

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Post by latexr »

yawboakye wrote: post #27
mikkupikku wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, reminds me of that free T-shirt contest thing... Submit crap PRs to random FOSS projects for a chance of winning a shirt, what could go wrong? https://ongchinhwee.me/shitoberfest-ruin-hacktoberfest/

worked well for a bit. but then the program became popular and that’s when it hit the curb. terrible loss, imo. it was a brilliant idea to encourage open source work with a token reward. it relied heavily on good intentions, which quickly disappeared with the popularity.

It’s still ongoing. The difference is they now no longer offer t-shirts (at one point they planted trees instead, unsure if that still happens), and projects must opt-in.
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