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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by pphysch »

Sharlin wrote: post #283
breve wrote: post #4

A necessary step to reduce risk to infrastructure given that the US government has become erratic and has decided it is now anti-Europe. The US means to undermine the EU: https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-h... The US means to annex European territory: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure.…

It's incredible how quickly such obvious hostility as plans to incite what amounts to secession in a putatively friendly, allied sovereign entity has become normalized and ho-hum.

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by thdrtol »

DaSHacka wrote: post #279
thdrtol wrote: post #72

It is amazing how quick a country can turn into a corrupt dictatorship. Airbus has the ability to move their data to another location, but it is very problemetic that all people with a social account can't. Sure, you can delete your Facebook account but it will take years for you profile to be gone because we all know your data is sold to other parties. My only option is to keep in mind that everything I put online w…

> It is amazing how quick a country can turn into a corrupt dictatorship. I know, watching the fall of the UK and European countries has been really depressing to see. It's unfortunate, but it seems the US will have to carry the torch alone going into the mid-to-late 21st century.

At least we agree that a country turning into a corrupt dictatorship is depressing to see.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by nephanth »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #259
nephanth wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Socialist is a very weird term to use here. The eu is the epitome of neoliberalism, even more so than the us

Tge EU is liberal just as much as I’m asian…

The EU in its current form is mostly about markets. It routinely pushes for the sacrifice of government monopolies to the altar of the free market (see for a recent example the french train network). Most of its regulations are to ensure a level field for a balanced market.

Hell it pushes for free markets even when it makes very little sense (the eu electricity market and its weird idiosyncrasies are an artifact of that)

It basically bans member governments from printing money and imposes very strict limits of 3% GDP on government deficits. For reference the US deficit was 5.9% gdp this year, Almost twice as much. this greatly limits government control over the economy.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by [deleted] »

throw0101c wrote: post #113
ExoticPearTree wrote: post #103

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> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Using this logic, every country should develop its own critical equipment from scratch, in terms of both hardware and software. My belief is that there is no problem with the Chinese equipment, just scare-mongering from the US because it has no manufa…

>> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. > Using this logic, every country should develop its own critical equipment from scratch, in terms of both hardware and software. The logic is don't use infrastructure of people you don't trust. If Europeans don't trust Chinese, then don't use Chines…

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Post by jeltz »

MangoToupe wrote: post #285
cess11 wrote: post #229

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What a bizarre description of what the US did. Greenland has been inching towards independence since the seventies, because that's the common ambition of greenlandic peoples and it's slow because there are rather deep ties between Denmark and Greenland. These ties are to some extent very negative for the greenlanders, they're generally discriminated against and have been viciously mistreated at times, but a quick cle…

> if it would result in worse living conditions Well nobody is forcing Denmark to be a dick about decolonization, nor a dick to all the people it never colonized. That's a choice. > This is quite belligerent and nasty behaviour So was colonizing, well, anywhere. Europe still hasn't been appropriately punished for this. And yes, the US deserves to be punished severely for its own brutal conquests.

Why do you want to punish the Greenlanders? They would rather be a Danish colony than an American.

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Post by neoromantique »

pphysch wrote: post #291
Sharlin wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's incredible how quickly such obvious hostility as plans to incite what amounts to secession in a putatively friendly, allied sovereign entity has become normalized and ho-hum.

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This is not Russia Today.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by jeltz »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #259
nephanth wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Socialist is a very weird term to use here. The eu is the epitome of neoliberalism, even more so than the us

Tge EU is liberal just as much as I’m asian…

Then you are very Asian.

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Post by saubeidl »

alephnerd wrote: post #260
saubeidl wrote: post #214

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I'd argue the savages are the people shooting civilians.

The EU is so much more civilized by bribing Turkiye [0], Libya [1], Morocco, Mauritania, Tunisia [2], and other nations to shoot and/or indefinitely detain them for you guys instead. Yet we as Americans are the savages. European civil society needs to drop this charade of moralizing and being "rules based". The reality is EU policymakers are equally as mercurial and open to making deals with devils. The issue is a su…

What are you talking about? Are you guys shooting people at the border?

I was reacting to the guy above, not Americans.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by alephnerd »

saubeidl wrote: post #298
alephnerd wrote: post #260

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The EU is so much more civilized by bribing Turkiye [0], Libya [1], Morocco, Mauritania, Tunisia [2], and other nations to shoot and/or indefinitely detain them for you guys instead. Yet we as Americans are the savages. European civil society needs to drop this charade of moralizing and being "rules based". The reality is EU policymakers are equally as mercurial and open to making deals with devils. The issue is a su…

What are you talking about? Are you guys shooting people at the border? I was reacting to the guy above, not Americans.

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by jeltz »

nephihaha wrote: post #203
andsoitis wrote: post #197

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> move away from a centralist, authoritarian model, EU is authoritarian? Why do you think that?

It is restricting freedom of expression, and increasing public surveillance.

The EU is what held back the surveillance in the UK. Post brexit they went all in on surveillance.
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