Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

Post by saubeidl » Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 1:06 PM UTC

mlrtime wrote: post #117

jimnotgym wrote: post #25

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Was it laziness and stupidity, or was it protection money . I thought the deal since WW2 was a US security guarantee, in return for letting the US have our money. A protection racket. Or perhaps it was more like Europe paying tribute to its colonial master. Anyhow it is clear the protection is not to be relied upon, so it is time to stop paying. It is dangerous making deals with gangsters. It is perhaps more dangerou…

Wait so the US is supposed to provide security at no cost forever? Are you talking about NATO or something else? The only thing I see a problem is all countries paying the same rate to be in NATO.

Post by strangegecko » Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 1:07 PM UTC

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #103

breve wrote: post #4

A necessary step to reduce risk to infrastructure given that the US government has become erratic and has decided it is now anti-Europe. The US means to undermine the EU: https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-h... The US means to annex European territory: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure.…

> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Using this logic, every country should develop its own critical equipment from scratch, in terms of both hardware and software. My belief is that there is no problem with the Chinese equipment, just scare-mongering from the US because it has no manufa…

Post by andsoitis » Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 1:09 PM UTC

MangoToupe wrote: post #125

Lapel2742 wrote: post #87

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> want to annex a European territory Greenland is not in europe. It may be a danish colony but that doesn't make it "european territory" any more than french guiana is. EU territory? Sure. But europe is a penninsula on the western flank of eurasia. Edit: huh I had no idea how complicated the classification of eu territories is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_territories_of_members...

Post by saubeidl » Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 1:11 PM UTC

Amezarak wrote: post #126

saubeidl wrote: post #118

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Those two are not unrelated. It's a result of deliberate media manipulation and hybrid warfare by the US and Russia.

I see. Well, foreign intervention and propaganda in democracies is nothing new. It is well documented all the way back to the time of ancient Greece. So your contention is that in Germany and perhaps other countries (France?) some of the most popular political parties are popular only because their partisans are uneducated dupes or worse, in thrall to foreign powers. Perhaps you would be better off ideologically not…

Post by Wilder7977 » Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 1:11 PM UTC

unmole wrote: post #23

flumpcakes wrote: post #3

Some people in the US deride it's close allies as "freeloaders" because they choose to use and buy US tech, reinforcing the US's position as a global powerhouse. (Meanwhile US tech is built on the shoulders of their allies.) Now we see these same allies are starting to look inward and invest in technology they own completely because the US is acting decisively not like an ally. Something unthinkable since WW2. I don'…

> Some people in the US deride it's close allies as "freeloaders" because they choose to use and buy US tech This is a disingenuous straw man. The allies are derided for literally freeloading on US military protection while underinvesting in their own defense.