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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by MangoToupe »

Amezarak wrote: post #126
saubeidl wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those two are not unrelated. It's a result of deliberate media manipulation and hybrid warfare by the US and Russia.

I see. Well, foreign intervention and propaganda in democracies is nothing new. It is well documented all the way back to the time of ancient Greece. So your contention is that in Germany and perhaps other countries (France?) some of the most popular political parties are popular only because their partisans are uneducated dupes or worse, in thrall to foreign powers. Perhaps you would be better off ideologically not…

> European center and left parties could suck all the oxygen out of the room and starve the far-right overnight if they simply introduced and enforced major immigration restrictions

Economic suicide. Why would anyone argue for this? Europe might as well just nuke itself.

Granted, if I were a conservative European, I would also be pro nuking myself.

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Post by DaSHacka »

nxm wrote: post #102
jacquesm wrote: post #64

And not just Airbus. Very quietly there is a lot of stuff being moved out of the US and away from MS, AWS, Google etc. Trump has absolutely no idea what he's doing and comes across as the proverbial bull in a China shop. History books a hundred years hence will have some choice things to say about how we all stood by and let this happen.

Any concrete evidence of any of that outside of a few companies "exploring" the move? For most companies it's a non-starter

Well, they really, really, really want it to be true, so surely that means it practically is.

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Post by Sharlin »

breve wrote: post #4

A necessary step to reduce risk to infrastructure given that the US government has become erratic and has decided it is now anti-Europe. The US means to undermine the EU: https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-h... The US means to annex European territory: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure.…

It's incredible how quickly such obvious hostility as plans to incite what amounts to secession in a putatively friendly, allied sovereign entity has become normalized and ho-hum.

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Post by constantcrying »

I do not understand what this is supposed to be about.

What is this "Euro Cloud" and what does it have to do with "ERP, manufacturing execution systems, CRM, and product lifecycle management (aircraft designs)"?

For example I am not aware that Microsoft, Amazon or Google offer any PLM services. The companies offering those would be Siemens, Dassault and so on. Is the issue that those PLM providers are themselves running on Microsoft, Amazon or Google Services? But then the issue is with Airbus needing to force their suppliers into changing where there services are delivered from, but AFAIK these PLM providers offer on prem services, so it seems like a relatively trivial issue.

What exactly is the "Euro Cloud" supposed to mean here, what is the actual issue with Airbus switching their PLM to on prem? TO be honest I find it hard to imagine that this isn't already the case. So what is going on here?

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Post by MangoToupe »

cess11 wrote: post #229
drysine wrote: post #184

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What a bizarre description of what the US did. Greenland has been inching towards independence since the seventies, because that's the common ambition of greenlandic peoples and it's slow because there are rather deep ties between Denmark and Greenland. These ties are to some extent very negative for the greenlanders, they're generally discriminated against and have been viciously mistreated at times, but a quick cle…

> if it would result in worse living conditions

Well nobody is forcing Denmark to be a dick about decolonization, nor a dick to all the people it never colonized. That's a choice.

> This is quite belligerent and nasty behaviour

So was colonizing, well, anywhere. Europe still hasn't been appropriately punished for this. And yes, the US deserves to be punished severely for its own brutal conquests.

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Post by DaSHacka »

letmetweakit wrote: post #32
jasonvorhe wrote: post #9

Having worked with all major European clouds: Good luck, have fun opening a lot of support cases for things that should work ootb.

It's better than having the rug pulled from under your company one day. This is the point in history we're at unfortunately.

> It's better than having the rug pulled from under your company one day. This is the point in history we're at unfortunately.

Source?

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Post by saubeidl »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #255
saubeidl wrote: post #136

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What socialism? What are you talking about? The EU parliament has a conservative majority [0], as does the Council. [1] It's a right-wing organization. I wish there was socialism, mate. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_European_Parliament#Curr... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union#...

So this is why they give out subsidies left and right? Is this why they are working on increasing taxes? Right now in politics you can claim to be whatever you want and your policy stance to be opposite: I am on the right but I vote left wing measures.

All of those are right wing policies, designed to support an inherently broken system of capitalism.

Left wing would be the state owning the means of production.

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Post by avianlyric »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #157
xorcist wrote: post #67

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Pray tell, how much of, say, the latest Afghanistan war did the US pay and how much do their allies need to bear? The rebuilding of a whole country, the reinstatement of the Taliban regime, the destabilization of the region, and the still ongoing stream of refugees? The political aftermath of which is still felt in Europe.

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> Building a wall and shooting on site anyone who crosses it is a very simple and effective method of keeping immigration in check.

Ah yes a wall, like that famously effective one that Trump built. Tell me has US managed to actually finish it yet?

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