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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany AFG are Neonazis?

Indeed. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/19/turmoil-in-ger... https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/dangerous-liais...

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Was it laziness and stupidity, or was it protection money . I thought the deal since WW2 was a US security guarantee, in return for letting the US have our money. A protection racket. Or perhaps it was more like Europe paying tribute to its colonial master. Anyhow it is clear the protection is not to be relied upon, so it is time to stop paying. It is dangerous making deals with gangsters. It is perhaps more dangerou…

>Britain made a mistake letting that go https://thebulletin.org/premium/2024-11/united-kingdom-nucle...

It is not clear what point you are trying to make?

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Voter turn out is extremely low in certain central and eastern Europe for EU elections. I think it was down to under 20% in some places a few years ago. I had hoped that the UK would vote to remain and Europe would move away from a centralist, authoritarian model, but it's got worse especially since 2020. The EU is its own worst enemy.

> move away from a centralist, authoritarian model, EU is authoritarian? Why do you think that?

It is restricting freedom of expression, and increasing public surveillance.

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> Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Maybe you should get out of your right-wing bubble. - EU approval among its citizens hits record high as security fears grow, poll shows ( https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-approval-among-its-c... ) - Nearly three quarters of EU citizens (74%) say that, taking everything into account, their country has benefited from being a mem…

The EU is busy clamping down on freedom of expression and forcing through Digital ID. It isn't some paradise. There are things I like about the EU, but it also has some things horribly wrong.

> It isn't some paradise.

Compared to the USA it still is.

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Heh there's two versions, the one with the spicier additions has not been officially published. https://archive.ph/eT1FY

> Heh there's two versions, the one with the spicier additions has not been officially published. I hear there's a third version.

Let me know once papers of record start reporting about it then.

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> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it. Using this logic, every country should develop its own critical equipment from scratch, in terms of both hardware and software. My belief is that there is no problem with the Chinese equipment, just scare-mongering from the US because it has no manufa…

We can see the same with everything in the US. Huawei became very competitive to Apple. Outsold Apple in it's home market. Huawei got banned. DJI has a near monopoly on drones. No US company could compete and players like GoPro shut down their consumer drone projects. DJI got/is about to get banned. Tiktok was dangerous to Meta. TikTok got almost banned/forced-sold. Chinese EVs are better than almost any US offering.…

I agree generally that protectionism is bad, but the examples you present are just the US (finally!) doing to China what China has done to the world for decades. They rely on relatively unencumbered trade in Western markets, while locking their own markets up from outside competition.

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geberation there will be no more real germans I would be very surprised if this type of speech is allowed/tolerated on HN.

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It's not tolerated because it's not the truth, even if your feelings are hurt by that.

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Disbanding the EU is an official goal of the new US security strategy.

The EU is not Europe. I never see any pro-EU sentiment anywhere besides on HN and Reddit. Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Except for the Germans.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Stop generalising. You don't know what Europeans think at all "except for the Germans"

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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We can see the same with everything in the US. Huawei became very competitive to Apple. Outsold Apple in it's home market. Huawei got banned. DJI has a near monopoly on drones. No US company could compete and players like GoPro shut down their consumer drone projects. DJI got/is about to get banned. Tiktok was dangerous to Meta. TikTok got almost banned/forced-sold. Chinese EVs are better than almost any US offering.…

> Huawei became very competitive to Apple. Huawei got banned. How would you explain Samsung, LG, Sony, etc.? > DJI got banned. Untrue. Supply is constrained and future of new product availability is uncertain because of FY2025 National Defesnse Authorization ACt, which requires a security audit by late Dec 2025. If that doesn't happen, DJI could automatically be added to the FCC's restricted list, which could block n…

As a former Huawei phone owner, and a present Honor phone owner, Samsung LG and Sony does not hold a candle to the quality on offer from Honor and Huawei.

And this is coming from someone who has owned multiple Samsungs over the years.

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For decades trusting the US was no problem at all. The relationship was mutually beneficial. Cooperation and trust among nations is possible and Juche (completely self-reliance) is not a worthwhile goal at all. So, sure, cooperation is great and should always be a goal – it also secures peace (people who are economically intertwined are less likely to go to war with each other). The issue is the US burning up that ea…

Have you already forgot the Merkel Phone incident? https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-spy-agency-tapped-g... Trusting the US should be considered a problem since decades.

This is not uncommon between even allies: https://www.dw.com/en/german-intelligence-spied-on-white-hou...

The issue has less to do with intelligence silliness, and more to do with the fact that the overall geopolitical objectives of the US can not be trusted, and that rift has grown to a point where self-reliance on critical infrastructure may be in Europe’s best interest.

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