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The One Big Beautiful Bill fixed that. Now a large part of this spectrum will be sold out for non-WiFi use.
Different spectrum. They're grabbing old radar ranges. Also talking about adding more spectrum to the existing ISM 6GHz band.
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#422The dedicated communication dongle between the PC and the headset sounds like a real game changer. Right now getting fast enough and reliable wireless connection means either tweaking to death one's setup or spending car money on the entire setup. In particular normal people usually don't realize how crappy their wi-fi and assume it's all the same, which would end in blaming the poor perf on the headset.
Reminds me of Apple's AWDL, a similar workaround for crappy networks when the devices need a high speed low latency network. I do wonder if the headset here will do similar channel hoping tricks to join both the dongle's network and the normal wifi network.
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#423Trying to decide if Steam Frame is going to be better than Apple Vision Pro + ALVR + lighthouses... AVP has higher resolution and OLED displays with higher PPD but obviously weighs a lot more.
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I'll share a childhood story as well. Somewhere between '93 and '95 my father took me abroad to Germany and we visited a gaming venue. It was packed with typical arcade machines, games where you sit in a cart holding a pistol and you shoot things on the screen while cart was moving all over the place simulating bumpy ride, etc. But the highlight was a full 3D experience shooter. You got yourself into a tiny ring, 3D…
Maybe something like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuality_(product) I think I played with the 1000CS or similar in a bar or arcade at some point in early 90's
The booth depicted on the 1000CS image looks exactly how I recall it, and the screenshot looks very similar to how I remember the game (minus dragon, and mine was fully wireframe), but the map layout looks very similar. It has this Q3DM17 vibe I was talking about.
Isn't this crazy, that we had this tech in ~'91 and it's still not just there yet?
On similar note - around that time, mid 90s, my father also took my to CEBIT. One building was almost fully occupied by Intel or IBM and they had different sections dedicated to all sorts of cool stuff. One of I won't forget was straight out of Minority Report, only many years earlier.
They had a whole section dedicated to showcasing a "smart watch". Imagine Casio G-Shock but with Linux. You could navigate options by twisting your wrist (up or down the menu) and you would press the screen or button to select an option.
They had different scenarios built in form of an amusement park - from restaurant where you would walk in with your watch - it would talk to the relay at the door and download menu for you just so you could twist your wrist to select your meal and order it without a human interaction and... leave without interaction as well, because the relay at the door would charge you based on your prior selection.
Or - and that was straight out of Minority Report - a scenario of an airport, where you would disembark at your location and walk past a big screen that would talk to your watch and display travel information for you, prompting question if you'd like to order a taxi to your destination, based on your data.
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I guess there's a market for this but I'm personally disappointed that they've gone with the "cram a computer into the headset" route. I'd much rather have a simpler, more compact dumb device like the Bigscreen Beyond 2, which in exchange should prove much lighter and more comfortable to wear for long time periods. The bulk and added component cost of the "all in one" PC/headset models is just unnecessary if you alre…
I'm personally quite hyped to see the first commercially available Linux-based standalone VR headset announced. This thing is quite a bit lighter than any of the existing "cram a computer in" solutions.
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#427Not a single piece of footage with someone wearing glasses and the Steam Frame I guess we get screwed over again :-(
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Valve kinda shows how a well-managed private business ought to run: respect your customers, find a cash cow and use it for slowly expand into related markets to your niche, develop good products over a long period (SteamOS took many years to become something actually useful) without focusing on the mentality of hyper-growth, keep the stereotypical contemporary MBA thinking away, have a small but competent team. There…
> There are, of course, the issues with lootboxes but even there they've kept their hands much cleaner than any other game developer. They do seem to get a pretty big pass on that. Wonder what it is about. Almost every other aspect of the company I find great, and I do wish they would release more games. Maybe Alyx 2 will come out with the headset? Could be what HLX has been this whole time, where people think it is…
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Enough bandwidth to absolve any latency issues over a wireless connection is not really a thing for a low latency use case like foveated rendering. What do you do when another device on the main wifi network decides to eat 50ms of time in the channel you use for the eye tracking data return path?
I believe all communication with the dongle is on 6GHz - both the video and the return metadata. So again, you just make sure the 6GHz band in the room is dedicated to the Frame and its dongle. The 5GHz is for WiFi.
My guess based on that is you likely dont need to totally clear 6GHz in the room the Frame is in, but rather just make sure its relatively clear.
We’ll know more once it ships and we can see people try it out and try and abuse the radio a bit.
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Some people really don't want to spend time exchanging parts when the memory they buy turns out to be incompatible or that the GPU doesn't fit the sleek mITX case. There's a lot of research to ensure all parts are compatible and optimal when building a PC - for some it's time that could be better spent on using the PC instead of building one.
You can still buy prebuilt though and slap SteamOS on it and youre there. Dont get me wrong this looks very a nice product, but its nothing revolutionary.