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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by ryandrake »

gxs wrote: post #262
bluGill wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people don't care and so don't vote with their wallet.

Also, people don't realize that sometimes it doesn't even matter Enough people don't care, don't notice, or in the worst case, even when they do, if the companies band together and don't give people a choice, eventually they will cave and thats what i predict will happen here In the future i suspect most people's homes will have ads, except for nerds who will have rooted their devices. and hopefully their moms.

A lot of people have gotten so used to their entire lives being saturated in ads that they don't even notice them anymore.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by ilamont »

embedding-shape wrote: post #73
0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #62

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The problem is that we are running out of alternatives. How long until there are no refrigerators, TVs, cars, whatever that will not work without some amount of baked in advertising?

I dunno, my family started buying LG stuff for our appliances and otherwise, and none of the stuff has forceful ads on them, at least yet. Currently I think we have LG TVs, fridge, dish washer, drier, washing machine and something else I can't remember, all of them working well, has nice and fast at-home support when needed and no ads even on the TVs.

We purchased a low-end LG OLED TV in 2022. A few months ago it started inserting LG text ads with a little bullseye at the bottom of the screen while watching OTA programs or using streaming apps. It wasn't clear how to remove them without stopping the programming or accidentally triggering some other ad display, which I didn't want to do. So the text ads sat there for 15 or 20 seconds before fading away.

It's the last LG TV we will ever buy.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by _cs2017_ »

nappy-doo wrote: post #139
kstrauser wrote: post #12

This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

I beg to differ that Samsung makes good stuff. We had a Samsung front-loading washer. The drum and the crank that holds the drum were made of two different materials, and in the presence of the water and detergent, a galvanic reaction occurred, dissolving the drum arm. Replacing the arm was $400 in parts and over 8 hours in repair time. (There's lots of YT videos of this exact repair.) What kind of monkey designs som…

How long did it take to break?

Also, I'm wondering if any other manufacturer would make the crank and the drum from the same material. Wouldn't it be like $100 extra to make a stainless steel spider?

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by dramm »

technion wrote: post #246
dramm wrote: post #242

Zero chance I'll purchasing any household device from Samsung. Not with all the crapware and spyware they pile onto their systems. Zero chance I'd purchase a household appliance with a large screen. WTF would I want that for. More garbage annoying crap and more to go wrong. The never ending chimes about everything on our Mellie clothes dryer was annoying enough... (and oh it wants to connect to the WiFi? Good luck wi…

I want to agree with you. But we said this about TVs and a bit later you couldn't buy a TV that wasn't giving you a "recommendations" feed or whatever.

Yes, it's just evil. I sure would not buy a Samsung TV laden with crap, I just will not do it. I run an old high-end commercial plasma display and otherwise watch video on dumb computer monitors or iPads. And yes I know, an iPad is far from a dumb device.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by derefr »

kragen wrote: post #265
derefr wrote: post #263

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Certainly, the truly rich person has never seen the main fridge their staff uses to store the ingredients for their meals. But said rich person has at least one more fridge: a relatively-small, usually very elegant (in-wall, glass-door) fridge, located in the [badly designed for cooking, but pretty] "kitchen" that adjoins the butler's pantry [= nearest, usually secondary, real kitchen]. They use this "kitchen" to whi…

This reads like fiction rather than informed ethnography. I think I've only been in one hectomillionaire's kitchen, though it can be hard to tell, and the only resemblance to your description is that he had a large household staff. But it wasn't his main house, and I don't know if you consider someone who isn't even a billionaire to be "truly rich".

Honestly, it's mostly just my impression of how things work after watching a lot of https://www.youtube.com/@ArvinHaddadOfficial 's mansion design reviews.

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Post by csomar »

kstrauser wrote: post #12

This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

They make nice stuff? I’ve stopped buying samsung 10 years ago and even before then not a single device was decent (and I bought phones, screens, home appliances, a TV)

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by fn-mote »

j1elo wrote: post #256
Fwirt wrote: post #25

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Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

I got another way of looking at it: it's not worth it having appliances that last 20 years, because in that time the tech itself can and does improve a lot. Ready example is my aunt: a very good and expensive Miele washing machine, that was made to last as things were before. But now 10 years have elapsed and modern washers come with bigger drums, much lower noises, optimized water and electricity usages, and more ef…

> it's not worth it having appliances that last 20 years

Think John Deere tractors as well as adware refrigerators.

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Post by kragen »

derefr wrote: post #275
kragen wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reads like fiction rather than informed ethnography. I think I've only been in one hectomillionaire's kitchen, though it can be hard to tell, and the only resemblance to your description is that he had a large household staff. But it wasn't his main house, and I don't know if you consider someone who isn't even a billionaire to be "truly rich".

Honestly, it's mostly just my impression of how things work after watching a lot of https://www.youtube.com/@ArvinHaddadOfficial 's mansion design reviews.

I'm guessing that most rich people do not want the inside of their mansions to appear on a YouTube channel, especially one about mansions. Most of these mansions do not cost even US$100M and so probably do not belong to truly rich people.

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Post by adfm »

j1elo wrote: post #256
Fwirt wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

I got another way of looking at it: it's not worth it having appliances that last 20 years, because in that time the tech itself can and does improve a lot. Ready example is my aunt: a very good and expensive Miele washing machine, that was made to last as things were before. But now 10 years have elapsed and modern washers come with bigger drums, much lower noises, optimized water and electricity usages, and more ef…

Maytag/Whirlpool washing machines in the past 10 years come with nylon hubs instead of the metal hubs they used to have. The splines wear out quickly and you’ll need to replace it. Most people will just buy another machine.
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