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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by kridsdale3 »

burnished wrote: post #260
j1elo wrote: post #256

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I got another way of looking at it: it's not worth it having appliances that last 20 years, because in that time the tech itself can and does improve a lot. Ready example is my aunt: a very good and expensive Miele washing machine, that was made to last as things were before. But now 10 years have elapsed and modern washers come with bigger drums, much lower noises, optimized water and electricity usages, and more ef…

That one is sunk cost, I think golden handcuffs are for highly compensated employment.

Sunk Cost is usually something we encourage people to avoid, but in the case of the capital infrastructure of your home, we have to factor depreciation. The aunt is not likely going to re-sell the washer for market value (like a car). It would be recycled when the new more high tech model comes in. A total loss.

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Post by gxs »

bluGill wrote: post #240
masijo wrote: post #236

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How are people still buying into the whole "voting with your wallet" crap?

Most people don't care and so don't vote with their wallet.

Also, people don't realize that sometimes it doesn't even matter

Enough people don't care, don't notice, or in the worst case, even when they do, if the companies band together and don't give people a choice, eventually they will cave and thats what i predict will happen here

In the future i suspect most people's homes will have ads, except for nerds who will have rooted their devices. and hopefully their moms.

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Post by derefr »

analog31 wrote: post #249
technothrasher wrote: post #244

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$3500 is about 1/3 of the cost of a "rich person" fridge.

A truly rich person has never seen their fridge.

Certainly, the truly rich person has never seen the main fridge their staff uses to store the ingredients for their meals.

But said rich person has at least one more fridge: a relatively-small, usually very elegant (in-wall, glass-door) fridge, located in the [badly designed for cooking, but pretty] "kitchen" that adjoins the butler's pantry [= nearest, usually secondary, real kitchen].

They use this "kitchen" to whimsically prepare avocado toast when hosting "guests" (e.g. people from Architectural Digest); or when vlogging / hosting their reality TV show about all the cooking they love doing. (At any other time, e.g. when hosting actual guests, if they want to make use of this kitchen [rather than simply speaking in their lounge until dinner is served in their separated dining room], it won't be by cooking there themselves, but rather by sitting around the kitchen island or the [probably open] secondary dining arrangement nearby, watching their private chef cook there, while they or their assistants try desperately to cover for how gimped their workflow is by having to use the faux-kitchen.)

And of course, even if the rich person does some whimsical/performative hobby cooking, the staff will have prepped and mise-en-placed anything they'll need from the butler's pantry onto the (huge) kitchen island in advance. (Like a cooking show!) So even then, they won't be needing the "kitchen" fridge. With the extreme edge-case exception of needing something to stay cool until the very moment it's needed; or needing to repeatedly chill it (think "making croissant dough", though I doubt a rich person would ever try.)

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Post by nradov »

bleomycin wrote: post #206
tempest_ wrote: post #113

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The issue is that the 10k fridge is not actually any better. The "luxury" appliances can be double that and are still shit.

Not quite accurate as a blanket statement. Munro did a very detailed tear down series of a sub zero refrigerator that’s very interesting. Youtube link: https://youtu.be/KAYj6m9QtDU I wish more content like this existed. It’s the only type of review that is worth paying attention to. Long story short if you live in an energy market like california the energy savings of the sub zero will likely offsets its additions co…

It's so crazy that even though California is in some ways the center of the technology universe we have had a dysfunctional electrical grid and market for decades. This has been an ongoing governance failure across multiple administrations and political parties. If we ever want to build stuff here and cut the cost of living then cheaper electrical power is a necessity.

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Post by kragen »

derefr wrote: post #263
analog31 wrote: post #249

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A truly rich person has never seen their fridge.

Certainly, the truly rich person has never seen the main fridge their staff uses to store the ingredients for their meals. But said rich person has at least one more fridge: a relatively-small, usually very elegant (in-wall, glass-door) fridge, located in the [badly designed for cooking, but pretty] "kitchen" that adjoins the butler's pantry [= nearest, usually secondary, real kitchen]. They use this "kitchen" to whi…

This reads like fiction rather than informed ethnography.

I think I've only been in one hectomillionaire's kitchen, though it can be hard to tell, and the only resemblance to your description is that he had a large household staff. But it wasn't his main house, and I don't know if you consider someone who isn't even a billionaire to be "truly rich".

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Post by bitwize »

analog31 wrote: post #201
Fwirt wrote: post #25

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Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

Maybe we need a new boots theory: The rich person buys a $3500 pair of boots that comes with surveillance, useless AI, and bricks itself on the next firmware update. The poor person buys a pair of boots, that are... boots.

There's a midwit bell curve meme lurking here...

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Post by fud101 »

I upgraded my Samsung phone to the latest One Ui version and i've been having a frustrating time with it. Turns out months later I discovered they have changed the behaviour to work best for Right Handed users. I found a setting that allowed me to flip that and now i'm able to use my phone again.

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Post by fn-mote »

derefr wrote: post #258
analog31 wrote: post #201

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Maybe we need a new boots theory: The rich person buys a $3500 pair of boots that comes with surveillance, useless AI, and bricks itself on the next firmware update. The poor person buys a pair of boots, that are... boots.

It's hard to make the right boots analogy (try it yourself if you think you can), but to speak of fridges — • The rich person's remodeller (or the developer of the house they buy) buys a commercial-kitchen prep fridge for the house's kitchen. This is a big, powerful, durable, repairable, no-frills, utilitarian fridge, that could be viewed as attractive or ugly depending on your opinion on brutalism. The rich person n…

Parent was funny but almost a non-sequitor.

I appreciated the kernel of truth: industrial fridges will not come with adware in the foreseeable future. Buy industrial.

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