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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by noir_lord »

snackbroken wrote: post #171
noir_lord wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just run it as a desktop and boost scaling. No one in my family has an issue with it, use a years and years old integrated wireless mouse/touchpad and happy days, everything works as you'd expect, you can use it as a regular PC (surprisingly handy sometimes) and I can adblock the crap out of everything/use unhook to decrappify YT. I happened to have an "old" Thinkpad (T470P, 7700HQ w/ 32GB RAM and the nvidia GPU) I…

With KDE Connect you can use your phone as a touchpad+keyboard. One less thing to get lost in the couch cushions ;)

I’m forgetful but it’s quite hard to lose an entire keyboard with integrated touch pad down the cushions.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by jimjimjim »

Once they have paved the way and built the infrastructure, most fridges will come with some sort of display. Probably just a small status display. But these fridges will be much cheaper, subsidized by the Ad opportunities. It happened with most mainstream TVs making people expect cheap TVs to the point where they will dismiss a TV with "normal" price.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by pclowes »

Honestly, stuff like this makes me want to leave my smart phone in the garage when I get home and have a single desktop linux box that is in a “computer room” hardwired and the house has no wifi or smart anything and every other screen goes into the trash.

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Post by sgarland »

oh-4-fucks-sake wrote: post #176
FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My house came with all Samsung appliances and I can't wait for all fo them to die. The dryer already went (8 years old). I've been replacing with mid-range LG on advice of the local repair company and been happy so far. Quirky and very few features but seems well built. Can't wait to replace the massive refrigerator and swap the gas range for inductive. Fridge is slowly going (cracked and leaking ice maker, condensat…

Speed Queen for washing machines. Bosch for dishwashers.

Bosch 800-series dishwashers are amazing. I’ve bought one at every house I’ve lived at, regardless of what’s installed. They’re quiet, they get everything clean no matter what, and they dry without a heating element, and without popping the front open.

Re: washing machines, I tentatively put forward LG. I bought one (and matching dryer) in the early 2010s, and it lasted 7 years before needing me to replace some balancing parts. It lasted years after that. Hoping for the same on this next move in a few days (yes, I move a lot).

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by masijo »

bluGill wrote: post #112
0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #62

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The problem is that we are running out of alternatives. How long until there are no refrigerators, TVs, cars, whatever that will not work without some amount of baked in advertising?

Depends on what consumers stand for. If enough complain. If enough get bad reviews. If enough get returned. If enough buy something else is the big one. If there are other uses where they can't (some TVs are used a safety message boards in factories - if the ads ever show in this context and someone is hurt there will be a lawsuit - so there will be some demand at any price for something without ads)

How are people still buying into the whole "voting with your wallet" crap?

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Post by TylerE »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #28
kstrauser wrote: post #12

This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

I've bought GE recently with good luck (GSS25IYNFSS, specifically). No affiliation, just someone who buys a lot of appliances that need to last and be simple for longevity (housing provider). My kingdom for someone who could build the old, reliable tanks of yesteryear. https://ncph.org/history-at-work/rethinking-the-refrigerator... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator

There is no such thing as consumer GE products. They haven't existed for several decades. The name has been licensed to various brands in China, but the only thing actual GE made in it's last several decades (It suffered existence failure in 2024 after a series of spinoffs) is aircraft engines.

Anything sold as "GE" is just re-badged somebody else's crap, mostly Haier.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by move-on-by »

aj_icracked wrote: post #217

I have the Samsung Frame TV (great TV btw) and decided I didn't want to pay the $5 / month to have curated art in the room and when Superman the movie came out a few months ago it was only displaying Superman comics on the screen. Was super annoying bc was subtle but not subtle enough. I uploaded family pics instead so I don't have that anymore but it was still pretty annoying. I have samsung washers / dryers / dishw…

If you are thinking of data - you have to think of meta data. Instead of how often you do laundry think more:

* number of adults in the house hold (people who have access to the account)

* when you are home

* opening fridge/doing laundry/etc. I have no idea if their app has an excuse to ask for location- but app location tracking would be the most valuable data

* even if you don’t share location- these things are on your network and any regular and simple network scanning would show when certain devices are home and we they are not home and what schedules they follow

This isn’t even very imaginative, just the basics really. I would not be surprised if you could guess the household size solely based on the number of times a fridge is opened in a day. You could at least determine between a person without a family vs. family- that’s useful for ads. Are these the fridges that have cameras in them ‘so you can see what you have while at the grocery store’? Throw some image detection in there and you now know brand targeting and if they cook regularly or eat out. A goldmine of data really.

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Post by pmw »

prawn wrote: post #181

Can't stand behaviour like this. I pay for Spotify and the app now shows paid suggestions ( cough ads), to paying users. When you tap the ellipsis and choose "Not interested", it doesn't respond with "OK, we'll stop" but something like 'We'll show less of this'. No, don't show less, I want you to not show it at all.

I was also infuriated by this, so much so that I switched to TIDAL. Migrating was easy— I used their recommended webapp ti migrate all my playlists. Have been using TIDAL happily ever since. Never any popups or ads.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by bluGill »

masijo wrote: post #236
bluGill wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on what consumers stand for. If enough complain. If enough get bad reviews. If enough get returned. If enough buy something else is the big one. If there are other uses where they can't (some TVs are used a safety message boards in factories - if the ads ever show in this context and someone is hurt there will be a lawsuit - so there will be some demand at any price for something without ads)

How are people still buying into the whole "voting with your wallet" crap?

Most people don't care and so don't vote with their wallet.
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