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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by oldpersonintx2 »

tempest_ wrote: post #113
Fwirt wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

The issue is that the 10k fridge is not actually any better. The "luxury" appliances can be double that and are still shit.

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Post by dramm »

Zero chance I'll purchasing any household device from Samsung. Not with all the crapware and spyware they pile onto their systems. Zero chance I'd purchase a household appliance with a large screen. WTF would I want that for. More garbage annoying crap and more to go wrong. The never ending chimes about everything on our Mellie clothes dryer was annoying enough... (and oh it wants to connect to the WiFi? Good luck with that. Terrible menu UI. I'll never buy one of those again either).

I like to think in future there migh be Harry Tuttle like appliance repair vigilantes that come out and remove all this crap from home appliances. :-)

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by TylerE »

kstrauser wrote: post #91
SilverElfin wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their TVs still don’t support all the HDR formats right?

That's correct. I can't use it at all with my Apple TV or Playstation 5, because the screen immediately goes dark. I don't know how to describe this exactly, but say that the TV's regular RGB display goes from 1 to 100. I'd expect that HDR would make it go from -50 to 150, or something like that. Instead, on my Samsung, it goes from -50 to 50. No amount of control fiddling can make it get as bright as it does in non-…

> I'd expect that HDR would make it go from -50 to 150

That's not how HDR works. It expands the high range exclusively. So more like 0 to 1000 instead of 0 to 100.

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Post by technothrasher »

kragen wrote: post #230
dylan604 wrote: post #227

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Isn't that reversed now? You can only afford the device that is subsidized by the analytics you will be generating for them while the rich person can afford to by the non-subsidized version.

No, these are US$3500 fridges.

$3500 is about 1/3 of the cost of a "rich person" fridge.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by oldpersonintx2 »

thih9 wrote: post #126
Fwirt wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

> you can still find fridges in that price range today with a similar value proposition Does anyone have examples of consumer fridges like this?

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Post by technion »

dramm wrote: post #242

Zero chance I'll purchasing any household device from Samsung. Not with all the crapware and spyware they pile onto their systems. Zero chance I'd purchase a household appliance with a large screen. WTF would I want that for. More garbage annoying crap and more to go wrong. The never ending chimes about everything on our Mellie clothes dryer was annoying enough... (and oh it wants to connect to the WiFi? Good luck wi…

I want to agree with you. But we said this about TVs and a bit later you couldn't buy a TV that wasn't giving you a "recommendations" feed or whatever.

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Post by tosapple »

SoftTalker wrote: post #218
LogicHound wrote: post #65

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I got their monitors from the "before" they bunged smart into everything. 2 x 4K from 2016/2017. These things refuse to die and the picture is still good. Unfortunately all of my relatives love their phones.

I had a Samsung phone a few years ago. It had the usual un-removable crap that Android phones have, but it wasn’t bad otherwise.

Mid range samsung phone here, great performance but even with their keyboard disabled on a non-rooted phone it still copies your clipboard on every copy/paste. I will be buying something else next time.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by TylerE »

hn_acc1 wrote: post #136
rcarmo wrote: post #46

I've managed to mostly excise Samsung from my digital life (except for phones that family buys without my knowledge and that I have to troubleshoot), and I have been happier for it for many decades now. (This was after direct exposure to their Tizen engineering team back in the early 2000s) I stayed away from their phones, SmartTVs, everything.

What phones do you recommend? I have an S21 FE I got free from Metro PCS (I got laid off, had to return company S20 phone). Others in the family have Pixel / moto. I get the feeling the later galaxy phones are much worse than the S21?

iPhone. Android is so crap laden.

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Post by liendolucas »

drdaeman wrote: post #70
liendolucas wrote: post #8

You do not buy a smart appliance. Period. A fridge, oven, toaster, washing machine, bed do not need to be smart. Smart is the consumer that is able to spot all this BS ideas that are putting in front of us and avoids it as much as it can.

Disagree. Smart can be good, if you're actually in full control (whenever you contract the implementation to a company or own it). The real problem is, there's not much on the market that respects the consumers in this regard. Ask for an SLA on a smart fridge functionality and you'll be met with a confusion and possibly a revelation there's nothing of a kind. It's all ignored because most consumers don't ask question…

How can smart be good? Can you give me a practical and real example of a benefit of a smart appliance? How can it be better than a regular appliance that does not get on your way?

Let me guess: now to operate a dishwasher I need to download and install a mobile app. And also regularly update the app and the firmware of the appliance, or maybe need a permanent internet connection to correctly operate. It' BS all the way down.

The only thing that companies are expecting from providing you a smart feature is to somehow monetize that on a regular basis and the easiest thing to do that is to either sell your data or locking you down to a fucking subscription.

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