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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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The EU Commission is appointed, not elected. Only the Parliament (MEPs) are elected.

What’s worse, the parliament cannot originate law. Only the unelected Commission can do so. And they can do it behind closed doors. This is a setup that’s ripe for corruption.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Including the nasty political side-show that is Ulster Scots - literally only brought in as a chilling effect 'whataboutism' to diminish support when Irish speakers ask for language rights in Northern Ireland. https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/1fivtob/no...

This completely ignores the history of published writing in Ulster Scots going back centuries.

This is one of those topics where the Hacker News take is unlikely to be correct. There's a lot of strong feeling here, and an outsider would need at least three books to understand the historical context (one of which, afaict, has not been written yet: it's oral tradition only).

People closer to the issue are better-placed to gather the necessary information, but again: strong feeling. Most people find it hard to get past that. The most informed person I know is so biased that I don't at all trust their conclusions.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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It’s probably the people who didn’t start a business in the EU that you want to talk to. Like, I’m European, but I started my company in the US because everything is so much easier here.

Where in Europe and where in the US? You probably started one in the easiest US state to do so. Did you try starting one in the easiest EU state? Otherwise we already can't take things very seriously. Secondly, what's easier besides VC funding? If it's VC funding, the disparity there has nothing to do with regulations - guess how much VC funding the non-EU rest of the world gets.

I’m actually bootstrapping, so the VC situation isn’t relevant to me.

It’s a distant memory to me now, I’m building a company and so much has happened that the details of this decision have faded away. But, between the AI act and GDPR, there’s a set of potential traps laid out for you to step into, along with reams of paperwork. All that requires lawyers and compliance consultants to help you figure it out, and that’s way too much for a fledgling startup.

I think it said it all that the AI regulations were written before there was really anyone to regulate. Why would I want to pour my heart and soul into a system that’s geared to find ways to stop me from building?

Anyway, it’s no longer relevant to me: I’m gone and I don’t have to worry about it anymore.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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It’s probably the people who didn’t start a business in the EU that you want to talk to. Like, I’m European, but I started my company in the US because everything is so much easier here.

What would you want to see changed to consider coming back?

When I got here, I realized that things are so much better here that the only thing that could get me back to Europe is a decision not to renew my visa.

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I took part in application for EU grants a few times and our company group did it many times over the years. It's bureaucracy, often bordering with stupidity. You may need advisors to navigate all their forms & processes. But it certainly isn't "pals-only" type of deal. On the other hand - is it harder than getting VC funding? For seasoned founder with reputation - probably. For fresh startup - probably not.

Reviewer (Scientific Expert) for the EU (since 2009) here. The probability of getting a Horizon Europe grant allegedly (not official stats) is about 8.5% according to some friends, which may seem low. You need to write 70 pages following a Word template and the key goal is to cover answers to a large number of questions. Each proposal gets various grades across a range of dimensions, which get added up and if you obt…

Can you confirm (or not) the mandatory female co-founder? I could swear I read it. Or could it be another EU fund?

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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See the section "historical dispute". I think some people get touchy about them being lumped together if their last period of commonality (per the article) was 1400 BCE. For comparison, I believe all the Slavic languages were mutually intelligible around 1200 AD. But much more recently than this, in the last few centuries, there have been notable attempts by east slavs to absorb the Baltic language cultures and deny…

I doubt that South Slavic and West/East Slavic were mutually intelligible at 1200 AD. I doubt West and East Slavic were. But inside those geographic groups they probably were (Czech and Polish AFAIR were around that time).

I may be off by 100-200 years, but this is what I read. There were accents and regionalisms but they were all mutually intelligible.

It is an example I think of often, about how quickly languages can change. In the scale of 1000 years, a lot changes. Most of the diversity in Romance languages is from around that timescale too, it really started to diverge substantially around 900ad-1100ad.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Where in Europe and where in the US? You probably started one in the easiest US state to do so. Did you try starting one in the easiest EU state? Otherwise we already can't take things very seriously. Secondly, what's easier besides VC funding? If it's VC funding, the disparity there has nothing to do with regulations - guess how much VC funding the non-EU rest of the world gets.

I’m actually bootstrapping, so the VC situation isn’t relevant to me. It’s a distant memory to me now, I’m building a company and so much has happened that the details of this decision have faded away. But, between the AI act and GDPR, there’s a set of potential traps laid out for you to step into, along with reams of paperwork. All that requires lawyers and compliance consultants to help you figure it out, and that’…

Hi! EU Resident here, if anything, I'd want EU protections to apply even more to US companies than they do now.

I don't want to exchange my freedoms for your shareholder value, thank you.

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The winning move is that governments should do government stuff and private capital should do private capital stuff. Startups belong to the latter.

> Startups belong to the latter. Except that Apple, Intel, Tesla, etc have all received US government investment [1]. TSMC is a product of the Taiwanese state! Government investment can be done well, and seeds excellent companies. [1]: https://www.sba.gov/blog/2024/2024-02/white-house-sba-announ...

It doesn't matter if government funded startups have been successful. It's not the government's job to provide capital to high risk ventures. They should provide public services for the people and regulate the private sector according to the interest of the people.

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> Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. It's Semitic, to be precise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages

Arabic, even. An outlier, as it is AFAIK the only arabic dialect that is not written with the arabic alphabet. Also it's far removed from other arabic dialects.

It's not at all far removed from the North African dialects of arabic which is the dialect that it's derived from. Tunisians and Algerians can understand Maltese quite well.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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I’m actually bootstrapping, so the VC situation isn’t relevant to me. It’s a distant memory to me now, I’m building a company and so much has happened that the details of this decision have faded away. But, between the AI act and GDPR, there’s a set of potential traps laid out for you to step into, along with reams of paperwork. All that requires lawyers and compliance consultants to help you figure it out, and that’…

Hi! EU Resident here, if anything, I'd want EU protections to apply even more to US companies than they do now. I don't want to exchange my freedoms for your shareholder value, thank you.

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