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EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by punnerud »

adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

Norwegian is also included, based on the model card: https://huggingface.co/utter-project/EuroLLM-9B

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by tensor »

kreetx wrote: post #45

I'm somewhat skeptical of taxpayer funded innovation. Seen a few Horizon grants from the side, as a citizen I'd prefer to not pay for them, but unfortunately can't opt out.

The vast majority of US discoveries are by immigrants using taxpayer money. AKA scientists at universities. Your media likes to give credit to the companies, but generally the companies only apply things, they rarely create new science these days.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by t43562 »

oytis wrote: post #103
t43562 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every country needs a few plumbers and carpenters whether or not they are at the forefront of technology. Some money must be spent to give academics work to do so they can sharpen up their skills and perhaps teach the next set of students who might be more commercial

It would be a better use of the money to hire someone who has worked on actual frontier models to teach at European universities

If you could find one for the money, if they were happy to teach in the long term. If it wasn't better to have N for the price of 1. In other situations of import substitution I'm pretty sure people try to develop their local talent in addition to buying in experts.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by whimsicalism »

ffsm8 wrote: post #115
whimsicalism wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And your comment is just a totally normal way of engaging with strangers on the internet :)

Tbf, he's kinda on point. The EU Parlament has it's issues, and it's atrocious how corrupt politicians like e.g. von der Laien fail upwards into leadership roles there, but they're both massively exaggerating the issues to a degree that it's hard to call the stated opinions anything but unhinged. Its kinda like calling a Chihuahua "apex predator". completely out of touch with reality.

Okay, can you please quote me directly what I said that is unhinged/delusional or explain why he is on point that I should seek help? I think you have lost sight of that being an incredibly rude thing to say to someone, but maybe not?

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by arbuge »

adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

> Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language.

It's Semitic, to be precise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by jim180 »

KronisLV wrote: post #98

Here's the models: https://huggingface.co/utter-project/models I used the 9B Instruct version, from the small models, it was the one with the best Latvian knowledge out there, bar none. GPT-OSS 20B and Qwen3 30B A3B and similar ones weren't even close. That said, the model itself was a little bit dumb and not something you'd really use for programming/autocomplete or tool calling or anything like that, which also pre…

If I ask something in Lithuanian, EuroLLM will reply in Latvian lol.

I have to specifically tell something like this: “do you known Lithuanian language”, then it starts replying in Lithuanian

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by clickety_clack »

deaux wrote: post #99
whimsicalism wrote: post #57

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> What's REALLY much more important though if you want to be a part of the AI race and I've posted for years here with @euaccofficial is to make Europe a really extremely attractive place to start and run an AI business. Remove regulatory obstructions and give tax discounts for startups. Let them build a business first that can compete worldwide and once they make enough money (let's say $100M/y), then slowly start a…

It’s probably the people who didn’t start a business in the EU that you want to talk to. Like, I’m European, but I started my company in the US because everything is so much easier here.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by tirant »

mikrl wrote: post #81
Vinnl wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tomorrow there are elections in the Netherlands, and two parties are proposing adding Frysian to that list: https://neerlandistiek.nl/2025/10/kies-voor-taal/ Best get to retraining those models.

As a Brit I feel very at home when hearing/reading Dutch and Frisian. It’s a reminder that England and the Low Countries share a lot of close history all the way back to Anglo-Saxon times; of being fishers, traders, burghers and mercenaries moving around the North Sea chasing opportunities, spreading and augmenting languages. “Brea, bûter en griene tsiis is goed Ingelsk en goed Frysk”

Not only on the language but also in gastronomy and architecture. When I see old towns in UK I usually think about Dutch towns but just without any biking infrastructure.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by tecleandor »

Vinnl wrote: post #35
adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

Tomorrow there are elections in the Netherlands, and two parties are proposing adding Frysian to that list: https://neerlandistiek.nl/2025/10/kies-voor-taal/ Best get to retraining those models.

AFAIK, they are trying to get Frisian added to the "European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages", not the official language list.

They get certain recognition, but they are not official in Europe. For example, just from Spain there are 13 languages on that list.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by dzikimarian »

whimsicalism wrote: post #57

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While grant process in EU isn't fun, I think Levels has bit of an ego issues. He mentioned that if he had issues like that on eg X, he would see Elon himself in the replies.

While he is great at converting his influencer status to income in his micro-SaaS projects, I don't think running ad-fueled browser games on state-sponsored super computer should be really aim of these grant programs.

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