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EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

Tomorrow there are elections in the Netherlands, and two parties are proposing adding Frysian to that list: https://neerlandistiek.nl/2025/10/kies-voor-taal/ Best get to retraining those models.

As a Brit I feel very at home when hearing/reading Dutch and Frisian. It’s a reminder that England and the Low Countries share a lot of close history all the way back to Anglo-Saxon times; of being fishers, traders, burghers and mercenaries moving around the North Sea chasing opportunities, spreading and augmenting languages.

“Brea, bûter en griene tsiis is goed Ingelsk en goed Frysk”

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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I'm in Europe and can go into my local supermarkets on Saturday and Sunday from 0900 to 2100. I can send a SEPA wire transfer on the weekend and the recipient gets it within seconds. My nearest big shopping mall (hundreds of shops) is open until 23:00 on weekends. My dentist is open on Saturdays. So yeah it works on weekends...

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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less exposure to a technology that doesn't bring that much revenue and it's not projected to do so in the upcoming years.

Why wasting money on trying to compete at all then?

Every country needs a few plumbers and carpenters whether or not they are at the forefront of technology. Some money must be spent to give academics work to do so they can sharpen up their skills and perhaps teach the next set of students who might be more commercial

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

Flemish? I remember watching a TV show in Flemish (Hotel Beau Séjour[0]), so it's prevalent enough to invest that kind of money into.

What about Basque? Is that too controversial?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Beau_Séjour

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Aren't all frontier models already able to use all these languages? Support for specific languages doesn't need to be built in, LLMs support all languages because they are trained on multilingual data.

> because they are trained on multilingual data But they were not trained on government-sanctioned homegrown EU data.

Who in their right mind would use this?

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Wouldn't go that far. EU policymakers have good intentions, I believe - but ultimately are products of their environment and cultural inclination. The EU is such a bizarre place because they treat capital and entrepreneurs with such massive distrust, but never really bothered getting rid of the quasi-static entrenched hierarchies from feudalism? Like I'll go to the UK or France and there will just be massive swathes…

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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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I'm somewhat skeptical of taxpayer funded innovation. Seen a few Horizon grants from the side, as a citizen I'd prefer to not pay for them, but unfortunately can't opt out.

How about Tesla for taxpayer funded innovation? https://www.energy.gov/lpo/tesla

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I'm somewhat skeptical of taxpayer funded innovation. Seen a few Horizon grants from the side, as a citizen I'd prefer to not pay for them, but unfortunately can't opt out.

> I'm somewhat skeptical of taxpayer funded innovation... as a citizen I'd prefer to not pay for them, but unfortunately can't opt out.

There are a few variables here but at this point in time, private-funded innovation isn't different by much and all things considered, the difference isn't in its favor.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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I was thinking the same, why are so many superior models coming from only countries like US and China. And why are European countries not in the list other than France with Mistral. Why are so few companies in India, Japan, South Korea even close to a promising new model like what Chinese companies did ?

EU made a >900 page law about AI and patted themselves on the back for being "the first to regulate AI" (which was not even true, China had an AI law before and it's two pages long).
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