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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by radarsat1 »

whimsicalism wrote: post #242
dzikimarian wrote: post #234

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I took part in application for EU grants a few times and our company group did it many times over the years. It's bureaucracy, often bordering with stupidity. You may need advisors to navigate all their forms & processes. But it certainly isn't "pals-only" type of deal. On the other hand - is it harder than getting VC funding? For seasoned founder with reputation - probably. For fresh startup - probably not.

> For fresh startup - probably not. highly doubt, the whole thing about the success of the US west coast is that they are&were willing to fund unproven upstarts.

That's exactly the problem in Europe though. It's quite the opposite here.

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Post by tsimionescu »

fvdessen wrote: post #315
troupo wrote: post #191

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Levels is engagement farming. Instead of uncritically reposting him you could've gone ahead and read what the cluster is for: https://x.com/dmitriid/status/1982927767286231403 Cluster: for public benefit, cutting edge research in biotech, medical, robotics. Levels: I want to create AI photos of people for my AI Slop startup

Unfortunately the AI Slop is probably the most effective way to fund AI research right now

But the point here isn't to fund AI research, it is to use AI to benefit concrete fields.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by 3836293648 »

_kidlike wrote: post #231
adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

In Greek we call our language Hellenic, and our country Hellas. "Greek" / "Greece" don't exist in the Hellenic language.

Yes it does, it was a greek colony off the southern coast of Italy, which were the primary greek connection to the romans which how the name stuck.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by jenadine »

adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

No Luxembourgish?

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Post by [deleted] »

notahacker wrote: post #301
runarberg wrote: post #295

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Is there any dialect of Arabic which you can understand without too much effort? How much do you consider Maltese its own language (as opposed to a dialect of Arabic)?

I know that the reverse understanding isn't too bad from chatting with a Saudi-born member of staff on holiday in Malta. I don't think anyone would seriously consider it a dialect of Arabic though with its completely different alphabet and half the vocabulary and morphology coming from Italian languages/dialects, even if Malta hadn't spent the best part of a millennium trying very hard not to become part of the Arab…

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Post by troupo »

moffkalast wrote: post #251
pier25 wrote: post #147

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> When you talk to most EU business owners, even in tech, the limiting factor isn't regulations. I have a tech startup in Estonia and I agree. To me the biggest limiting factor is lack of funding.

Yep, VCs don't exist here. Plus the absurd starting costs, it's like what, 20k to set up a GmbH?

2.5k EUR in starting capital, and two founders to start a a limited liability company (AB) in Sweden, and a 240 EUR processing fee: https://verksamt.se/starta-foretag/valj-foretagsform/aktiebo...

And you register online.

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Post by isodev »

notahacker wrote: post #320
isodev wrote: post #312

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off topic but it’s absolutely stunning how Russia once fought the nazis and now Russia are the nazis.

tbf, the USSR fought the Nazis mainly because they didn't have much choice after Nazis turned on them a little while after they'd teamed up with those ideological enemies to invade Poland, so it's not like they hadn't put the effort into being on the wrong side of history :)

Indeed, we had a history teacher who used to joke about Russia being a “historical bully” in every age since they’ve been on the map.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by sealeck »

carlosjobim wrote: post #313
array_key_first wrote: post #302

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Right but if we do this with public funds then the narrative shifts to "OMG the EU is so corrupt and stupid, looking they're pouring taxpayer dollars into unproven stuff! They're deindustrializing!!" The point being that, as soon as public dollars are on the table, people expect perfection. Anything less is waste, fraud, and abuse. There's literally no winning. Want to make sure the money is allocated right? Bureaucr…

The winning move is that governments should do government stuff and private capital should do private capital stuff. Startups belong to the latter.

> Startups belong to the latter.

Except that Apple, Intel, Tesla, etc have all received US government investment [1]. TSMC is a product of the Taiwanese state! Government investment can be done well, and seeds excellent companies.

[1]: https://www.sba.gov/blog/2024/2024-02/white-house-sba-announ...

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Post by barrell »

purrcat259 wrote: post #16
adzm wrote: post #2

For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

I read, write and speak Maltese, AMA if you are curious about the language.

I recently discovered Maltese existed, and started learning it that day. I find it such an awesome language, and not just because of the letter Ħ

I do wonder what natives think and feel about the longevity of their language? What is taught in schools at what ages (assuming English is in the mix somewhere). Is there enough media in Maltese for Malti to go about the moderns at fully in Maltese? It’s shockingly hard to find any information on Maltese, and even harder to find content.

I’m not sure if’s dying out, or in danger thereof; if there are preservation efforts, or if there is no need.

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Post by cenamus »

arbuge wrote: post #119
Raed667 wrote: post #40

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Tunisians claim they can understand Maltese with minimum effort, is it reciprocal? How close is Maltese to arabic / tunisian dialect ?

Not sure which Tunisians are claiming this but they'd definitely need a lot more than minimum effort. Maltese split off from Arabic around 1k years ago. The two languages sound pretty different, and are written with different alphabets.

Also lots of influence from Italian and English.
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