See also Apertus: https://www.swiss-ai.org/apertus
EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages
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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages
#72Aren't all frontier models already able to use all these languages? Support for specific languages doesn't need to be built in, LLMs support all languages because they are trained on multilingual data.
Nope. Capability begins to degrade once you move away from english.
Plus all your T&S/AI Safety is not solved with translation, you need lexicons and data sets of examples.
Like, people use someone in Malaysia, to label the Arabic spoken by someone playing a video game in Doha - the cultural context is missing.
The best proxy to show the degree of lopsidedness was from this : https://cdt.org/insights/lost-in-translation-large-language-...
Which in turn had to base it on this: https://stats.aclrollingreview.org/submissions/linguistic-di...
From what I am aware of, LLM capability degrades once you move out of English, and many nation states are either building, or considering the option of building their own LLMs.
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#73It's just another Horizon2020 grant, people. Don't be overly harsh to a bunch of academics who are just earning their living.
Yeah people comparing this to SOTA model is too harsh
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Balto-Slavic branch divides into Baltic and Slavic language groups so nothing wrong here
Yup, most of Eastern Europe are Balto-Slavic. While the division from the Eastern Slavic languages (Russian, Belarussian, Ukranian, etc) is distant, they are still Slavic. From Eastern Europe, only Estonian is not a Slavic language.
> From Eastern Europe, only Estonian is not a Slavic language.
Well, that and Romanian. And Hungarian. And outside the EU, Albanian. And Georgian, Azeri and Armenian if you consider those Eastern Europe.
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yeah best to lean in more on national and linguistic fragmentation, diversity has always been one of the EUs strengths
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balto-Slavic_languages
See the section "historical dispute". I think some people get touchy about them being lumped together if their last period of commonality (per the article) was 1400 BCE. For comparison, I believe all the Slavic languages were mutually intelligible around 1200 AD. But much more recently than this, in the last few centuries, there have been notable attempts by east slavs to absorb the Baltic language cultures and deny…
I doubt that South Slavic and West/East Slavic were mutually intelligible at 1200 AD.
I doubt West and East Slavic were. But inside those geographic groups they probably were (Czech and Polish AFAIR were around that time).
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tomorrow there are elections in the Netherlands, and two parties are proposing adding Frysian to that list: https://neerlandistiek.nl/2025/10/kies-voor-taal/ Best get to retraining those models.
Each EU country nominates one official language for the EU, otherwise we'd have Catalan, Breton, Kashubian and many more.
Including the nasty political side-show that is Ulster Scots - literally only brought in as a chilling effect 'whataboutism' to diminish support when Irish speakers ask for language rights in Northern Ireland.
https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/1fivtob/no...
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Wouldn't go that far. EU policymakers have good intentions, I believe - but ultimately are products of their environment and cultural inclination.
The EU is such a bizarre place because they treat capital and entrepreneurs with such massive distrust, but never really bothered getting rid of the quasi-static entrenched hierarchies from feudalism? Like I'll go to the UK or France and there will just be massive swathes of land owned by the nobility or 'former' nobility? Maybe start there but let your high-value human capital earn a good wage?