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Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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> fresh squeezed orange juice is little better than Mountain Dew A reasonable way to look at it is as a flat, fortified Mountain Dew. Great as a treat. Bad as a habit, at least with modern oranges.

That is an impossibly stupid way to look at it. Food is not just a bunch of numbers on a label.

> Food is not just a bunch of numbers on a label

Of course not. But a kid raised on a high-sugar diet, particularly if reïnforced repetitively through habit, is going to have a tougher time eating healthy than someone who learned to see sugary drinks as a treat.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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The real issue with fruit juice is that you can easily consume the juice of several pieces of fruit all at once and in a form that makes the sugar rapidly available so you get insulin spikes. The serving size for children of juice is 4-6oz which isn't very much volume, so its super easy to over do it. If you eat the whole fruit that sugar s bound up with fiber so you don't consume as much as easily and you digest it…

It is that and that the acidity of the fruit juice is pretty bad for the enamel of your teeth.

> the acidity of the fruit juice is pretty bad for the enamel of your teeth

Not an issue for kids with milk teeth. Not an issue for adults who brush. Restricting diet for dental hygiene always struck me as convoluted.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

Some of those are pretty easy to separate -

Alchohol isn't really good for you - statistically you will probably get away with reasonably low intake but the observational studies showing a benefit were most likely confounding variables - like studies where the 'non-drinkers' category contained those who had been alcoholics and were forced to stop drinking, or demographic distortions where moderate drinkers had much healthier lifestyles in other areas (exercise, access to healthcare, etc.) than heavy drinkers.

Coffee seems to be good for you, as long as it's only up to a few (3-4) a day, and as long as it's not affecting your sleep. But I have read the fines in methods like Turkish coffees could be somewhat harmful, whereas espresso is fine and paper filtered better. Sweetening it with sugar isn't great for you of course.

One that gets me is dairy and milk, I get the ethical concerns, and one can make an argument that it's not super 'natural' to take another species milk and to drink it after infancy, but that doesn't mean it's unhealthy (almost all medicines are 'unnatural' too, while some poisons are fully natural!). There's some evidence of milk/dairy being protective against bowel cancer for instance, and inconclusive evidence of harms so I do wince a bit at the plant-based milk alternatives (which are highly- or ultra-processed, if you do care about that kind of thing!) being so trendy.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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>I guess I'll stick to drinking water. But I'm sure there's a reason why that's bad for me. Micro-plastics, fluoride.. ;)

Or the more traditional ones: bacterias, viruses, worms, ...

You'd more than notice if your water was bad enough to develop enough harmful microorganisms to be bad for you (this goes for drinking water, not random wilderness water of course. always filter and boil that)

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Saccharin was the first artificial sweetener, discovered in 1879. It was popular in the early 20th century, and is available today as Sweet'n'Low or "the pink packet" (generics). The chemical has an advocacy group: https://saccharin.org/ - the latest news is that Canadians can now use saccharin too (2016). Walmart and Amazon have boxes of bulk sweet'n'low for baking/etc. ~4 weeks ago I reposted a submission about Asp…

> I think saccharin is probably the safest of all the artificial sweeteners. Stevia and monk fruit extracts (herbal sweeteners) are probably okay too, as long as you're not allergic to them.

No, isomaltulose(a.k.a Palatinose) is the best. Not very sweet, but it's literally just glucose and fructose connected differently, no other off-products or metabolic consequences, just a sweet carbohydrate with slow metabolism that doesn't cause cavities and is beneficial to the gut microbiota due to the slow release of sugar, just like a good resistant starch would.

It's not as sweet, low calorie, or inexpensive, but health-wise forget being harmless, it's outright better than almost all other carbs.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Or the more traditional ones: bacterias, viruses, worms, ...

You'd more than notice if your water was bad enough to develop enough harmful microorganisms to be bad for you (this goes for drinking water, not random wilderness water of course. always filter and boil that)

"not random wilderness water of course. always filter and boil that"

To be honest, maybe I was lucky, but I drank plenty of wilderness water unfiltered and except for mild stomach problems, I never had any issues.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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If taken orally, how does the saccharin distinguish between good and bad bacteria when bursting bacteria cell walls?

I don't think most antibiotics distinguish between good and bad bacteria, you just kill the majority of them and wait until they reproduce themselves again (and hopefully only the good bacterias).

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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The gut biome thing. There have been murmurs on the conspiracy internet about how artificial sweeteners may have been responsible for making gut biomes less effective. This seems related. The gut biome refers to bacteria in the gut.

There are a lot of bacteria that live in a dirt and our natural biome that also reduce to antibiotic resistance of pathogenic bacteria thus making antibiotics a more effective.

This general weakness of the bacterial wall is something to be wary of given they didn’t study its effect on a wider range of important bacteria.

Throwing a lot of anything in your gut that can cause an imbalance, ir serious dybosis is a good reason to treat your stomach like a little fermenting aquarium whose bacteria and skin cells cycle every 3-5 days.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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By squeezing juice out of an orange you’re separating the unhealthy stuff from the healthy stuff. Healthy stuff then gets thrown away. Some juice every now and then won’t hurt anyone but it’s not healthy to drink it every day.

> By squeezing juice out of an orange you’re separating the unhealthy stuff from the healthy stuff You’re separating liquids from solids. They each have their merits. The problem is industrial fruit produces a juice that is unlike anything in nature vis-à-vis sugar content.

Pray tell, how is a pasteurized orange juice that removes 99% of the juice from a orange, different from a squeezed oranged juice that removes 75% of the juice from an orange.

Please explain how the two sugar waters are different.

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