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Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by voidfunc »

jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

At some point you realize almost all of these studies are pointless and you're talking about shaving or adding negligible amounts of time off your life while ignoring more serious risks like driving or inhaling smog and brake dust daily. It's not an excuse to go crazy and eat and drink total shit, but I've largely given up on modern medicine and nutrition having any fucking clue beyond calories in / calories out.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by snozolli »

nineplay wrote: post #45
jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

no one should get nutritional advice heath professionals who are not nutritionists.

Nobody should take advice from nutritionists. It's not a regulated title. Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. Take your nutritional advice from dieticians (and licensed medical professionals with relevant training and experience).

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by arijo »

mateus1 wrote: post #35
arijo wrote: post #33

All sweeteners are considered harmful. Please watch the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkyv1o8Xp_M

This guy advocates for 0 sugar intake, which seems like a very fringe opinion…

I prefer fringe than stupid.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by bobthepanda »

ch4s3 wrote: post #77
nineplay wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

The real issue with fruit juice is that you can easily consume the juice of several pieces of fruit all at once and in a form that makes the sugar rapidly available so you get insulin spikes. The serving size for children of juice is 4-6oz which isn't very much volume, so its super easy to over do it. If you eat the whole fruit that sugar s bound up with fiber so you don't consume as much as easily and you digest it…

It is that and that the acidity of the fruit juice is pretty bad for the enamel of your teeth.

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Post by recursive »

nineplay wrote: post #73
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #69

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> fresh squeezed orange juice is little better than Mountain Dew A reasonable way to look at it is as a flat, fortified Mountain Dew. Great as a treat. Bad as a habit, at least with modern oranges.

That is an impossibly stupid way to look at it. Food is not just a bunch of numbers on a label.

So what is it? And what's a smart way to look at it?

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Post by timcobb »

nineplay wrote: post #57
timcobb wrote: post #52

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> So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. Sorta? It's not bad , right? But it has not much nutritional value, and spikes their glycemic index, which is probably fine but... why? I guess it does taste good...

Because no one wants to drink water all day every day and nothing else.

I basically only drink water...

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by fnord77 »

nineplay wrote: post #45
jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

> if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup

generally, processed foods are bad. You just created a processed food - you extracted the sugar and left the fiber and other good stuff behind.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by fnord77 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #47
nineplay wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

> if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid Nobody was seriously arguing against fresh-squeezed juices (especially when served with the pulp).

I am. That's a processed food. The sugar is concentrated via a mechanical extraction

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by chrismcb »

jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

Even consuming water can be deadly. Almost anytime can be consumed in moderation. And yes the amount of water you can consume safely is fairly high, there is a limit. Edit: I'm referring to clean water.
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