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Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by ashoeafoot »

colechristensen wrote: post #46
jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

How about we agree that people making food controversial are the problem and we can just ignore them. It's like they have a religion that refreshes its beliefs on a 5 year cycle.

A secular religion, replacing a million ourFatherWhoYouAreInHeaven to prevent the dwindling disease, with a milliin microfastings.. it lacks the little whips for self flaggelation though.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by nineplay »

wao0uuno wrote: post #68
nineplay wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because no one wants to drink water all day every day and nothing else.

I don’t see anything wrong with drinking only water.

Nothing is wrong with drinking only water. Nothing is wrong with drinking something besides water.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by nineplay »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #69
nineplay wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People below you in this thread are saying that fresh squeezed orange juice is little better than Mountain Dew. Something about nutrition makes people lose their minds.

> fresh squeezed orange juice is little better than Mountain Dew A reasonable way to look at it is as a flat, fortified Mountain Dew. Great as a treat. Bad as a habit, at least with modern oranges.

That is an impossibly stupid way to look at it. Food is not just a bunch of numbers on a label.

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Post by wao0uuno »

nineplay wrote: post #56
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid Nobody was seriously arguing against fresh-squeezed juices (especially when served with the pulp).

People below you in this thread are saying that fresh squeezed orange juice is little better than Mountain Dew. Something about nutrition makes people lose their minds.

By squeezing juice out of an orange you’re separating the unhealthy stuff from the healthy stuff. Healthy stuff then gets thrown away. Some juice every now and then won’t hurt anyone but it’s not healthy to drink it every day.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by RC_ITR »

jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4109571/

We don't even know if tiny doses or artificial radiation are good or bad for you.

That's the straw that just pushed me to live my life.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by amarcheschi »

nineplay wrote: post #65
amarcheschi wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It probably has to do with not being American, but at least here in italy it's completely fine to drink water and only that on a regular day. I do give that there's probably more variety, I know some people having preferences for certain bottled waters over others (I'll gladly drink whatever water I find, but I'm not a fan of the plastic taste of some bottled waters and definitely a hater of refrigerator-cold water)…

I drink water in the US every day just fine, I don't think there's anything cultural going on here. No one drinks coffee or tea or beer or wine in Italy? Pop culture has deceived me.

Oh well coffee is definitely a given for a lot of Italians lol. Tea as well although less spread than coffee. I was talking more about drinks taken in cans or bigger quantities than a coffee/cup of tea.

Wine is definitely more prevalent in the older gens, young people drink albeit less. Up until a few years ago - and in some older people is valid for today as well - there was the belief that a small glass of wine a day wouldn't do harm, or that it had a positive effect on your health...

So yeah, alcohol is often on the table, but there's much less choice about the variety of drinks compared in the us. Then, if you have to work in the afternoon you might choose to not drink alcohol, so you're stuck with water or the other more common soft drinks such as coke (...)

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by ch4s3 »

nineplay wrote: post #45
jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

The real issue with fruit juice is that you can easily consume the juice of several pieces of fruit all at once and in a form that makes the sugar rapidly available so you get insulin spikes. The serving size for children of juice is 4-6oz which isn't very much volume, so its super easy to over do it.

If you eat the whole fruit that sugar s bound up with fiber so you don't consume as much as easily and you digest it more slowly. Fiber plays a key role in satiety (feeling full) and stripped of fiber its easy to consume too many calories. A whole orange contains 3-6x the fiber of the equivalent volume of orange juice with pulp.

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Post by deepGem »

jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

I guess I'll stick to drinking water. But I'm sure there's a reason why that's bad for me.

Here's one :)

Too much water also erodes your body of salts. If you already are on a low salt diet this could be a problem. For us Indians eating mountain loads of salt, this is a non issue.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by pshirshov »

smt88 wrote: post #62
pshirshov wrote: post #58

> Saccharin breaks the walls of bacterial pathogens, causing them to distort and eventually burst, killing the bacteri Sugar, salt, kerosene and, for example, ethanol, do the same. What is special about saccharin?

You can't put the other things you've listed on a wound in a hospital without some, uh... unpleasantness.

Sure thing you can put sugar or, for example, colloidal silver (an awesome option!).

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Post by masfuerte »

smt88 wrote: post #62
pshirshov wrote: post #58

> Saccharin breaks the walls of bacterial pathogens, causing them to distort and eventually burst, killing the bacteri Sugar, salt, kerosene and, for example, ethanol, do the same. What is special about saccharin?

You can't put the other things you've listed on a wound in a hospital without some, uh... unpleasantness.

I don't fancy kerosene much. Sugar works very well [1]. Salt and ethanol are very effective in mouthwashes, though ethanol is carcinogenic. I stick to the salt.

[1]: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180328-how-sugar-could-...

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