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Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by ashoeafoot »

sionisrecur wrote: post #48
jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

Sorry, water has microplastics now.

The only way to prevent it, is to go full recycle, become a human bottle garden .

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by timcobb »

nineplay wrote: post #45
jader201 wrote: post #20

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

> So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition.

Sorta? It's not bad, right? But it has not much nutritional value, and spikes their glycemic index, which is probably fine but... why? I guess it does taste good...

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by timcobb »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #47
nineplay wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

> if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid Nobody was seriously arguing against fresh-squeezed juices (especially when served with the pulp).

With pulp we're getting somewhere, but without pulp?

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by gyudin »

profsummergig wrote: post #36

The gut biome thing. There have been murmurs on the conspiracy internet about how artificial sweeteners may have been responsible for making gut biomes less effective. This seems related. The gut biome refers to bacteria in the gut.

I wouldn't be surprised. Living in US more and more of my immigrant friends discover severe food sensitivities that they've never experienced before.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by colechristensen »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #47
nineplay wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

> if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid Nobody was seriously arguing against fresh-squeezed juices (especially when served with the pulp).

>Nobody was seriously arguing against fresh-squeezed juices (especially when served with the pulp).

Yes they are.

And when it comes down to it a little bit of fiber especially when something has been aggressively mashed up, doesn't make your orange juice all that different from a Mtn Dew. Fructose is fructose and no amount of magical extras is going to make that big of a difference on its metabolic effects.

I say that but I'm not advocating you to not drink juice. Just balance your inputs.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by nineplay »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #47
nineplay wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

> if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid Nobody was seriously arguing against fresh-squeezed juices (especially when served with the pulp).

People below you in this thread are saying that fresh squeezed orange juice is little better than Mountain Dew. Something about nutrition makes people lose their minds.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by nineplay »

timcobb wrote: post #52
nineplay wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

> So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. Sorta? It's not bad , right? But it has not much nutritional value, and spikes their glycemic index, which is probably fine but... why? I guess it does taste good...

Because no one wants to drink water all day every day and nothing else.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by smt88 »

nineplay wrote: post #56
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid Nobody was seriously arguing against fresh-squeezed juices (especially when served with the pulp).

People below you in this thread are saying that fresh squeezed orange juice is little better than Mountain Dew. Something about nutrition makes people lose their minds.

They are correct in terms of nutrition and sugar, but most kids can process a lot of sugar fine.

Fruit has also been bred to be much sweeter and less nutritious than it was 50 years ago, so there's that too.

Moderation is the key to everything.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Post by amarcheschi »

nineplay wrote: post #57
timcobb wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. Sorta? It's not bad , right? But it has not much nutritional value, and spikes their glycemic index, which is probably fine but... why? I guess it does taste good...

Because no one wants to drink water all day every day and nothing else.

It probably has to do with not being American, but at least here in italy it's completely fine to drink water and only that on a regular day. I do give that there's probably more variety, I know some people having preferences for certain bottled waters over others

(I'll gladly drink whatever water I find, but I'm not a fan of the plastic taste of some bottled waters and definitely a hater of refrigerator-cold water)

From my holidays in the US I recall shops, even small ones, having lots of drinks. Like, shelves and shelves of any alcohol free drink (and some abv ones) one could imagine. Here I go to my neighborhood small supermarket and there's coke, lemonade, Fanta, tonic water, a few local products such as spuma and that's it

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