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Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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The gut biome thing. There have been murmurs on the conspiracy internet about how artificial sweeteners may have been responsible for making gut biomes less effective. This seems related. The gut biome refers to bacteria in the gut.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/artificial-sweete...

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they’re using erythritol because it’s not toxic to pets which some of the other sugar alcohols are, and disastrously so. But all of the sugar alcohols can mess with your gut biome. Mine went nasty during the previous recession when I was chewing gum for TMJ related problems.

I'm confused, google says monk fruit is ok for pets. Regardless, who's feeding this stuff to their pets? I love fishermans friend, but I think the sorbitol is guaranteed excessive flatulence.

Monkfruit doesn't come in a nice, familiar crystal form, and monkfruit extract is much sweeter per gram than sugar. For this reason, manufacturers bulk it up with some kind of sugar alcohol to make it easier to use. GP is saying they use erythritol for this purpose because the other options (e.g. xylitol) are toxic to pets.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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Saccharin was the first artificial sweetener, discovered in 1879. It was popular in the early 20th century, and is available today as Sweet'n'Low or "the pink packet" (generics). The chemical has an advocacy group: https://saccharin.org/ - the latest news is that Canadians can now use saccharin too (2016). Walmart and Amazon have boxes of bulk sweet'n'low for baking/etc. ~4 weeks ago I reposted a submission about Asp…

I'm only quibbling here, and I agree with you, but an amusing factoid is that the ancient Romans used lead acetate as an artificial sweetener. It was made by boiling wine in a lead pot. When I lived in Texas, it was practically universal to open up a cup of iced tea, grab several packs of Sweet'n'Low, rip the tops off all at once, and pour them in.

With Sweet’n’Low?! Isn’t that considered blasphemy in sweet tea country?

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

#44

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

The residents of Flint, MI, might disagree with you.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

#45

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition.

I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, which is why no one should get nutritional advice heath professionals who are not nutritionists.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

#46

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

How about we agree that people making food controversial are the problem and we can just ignore them. It's like they have a religion that refreshes its beliefs on a 5 year cycle.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

#47

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

> if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid

Nobody was seriously arguing against fresh-squeezed juices (especially when served with the pulp).

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

#48

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

Sorry, water has microplastics now.

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

#49

These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

> Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. From what I've read it seems likely that any amount of alcohol is bad for you, most of the studies that show moderate as good for you make the mistake of only have 'sober', 'moderate' & 'heavy' drinking, but if you look at the 'sober' folks there's a heavy mix of "I don't drink because I'm in recovery" or othe…

It depends ? Has your line adapted to alcohol, like other lines adapted to milk?

Re: Sweetener saccharin shows surprise power against antibiotic resistance

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These days, about the only liquid you can consume without controversy is water. Some say coffee is good for you (in moderation), some say it's bad for you. Some say certain alcoholic drinks are good for you (in moderation), some say no amount of alcohol is good. Some say some artificial sweeteners have benefits, some say all of them are toxic. Some think fruit juices are good for you, because fruit. Some (most) say t…

The 'no fruit juice' thing really got on my nerves when my kids were little since people just throw it out with no qualifications. So really, if I cut up some oranges and squeeze the juice into a cup I can't give it to my kid because fruit = sugar = bad? It's such a reductionist way to look at food and nutrition. I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, wh…

>I also recently had a PT tell me that blending fruit into smoothies removes all the nutritional value, which is why no one should get nutritional advice heath professionals who are not nutritionists.

I'd just suggest nobody get nutritional advice. Really so much of it is just nonsense and there's no good advice in my opinion outside "eat a variety of food in moderation" unless you have specific health problems. If a health professional told me that blending fruit into smoothies removes nutritional value I'd make it a point to try to get them fired. (I have gotten healthcare professionals fired, but for more serious stupid statements)

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