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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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So you genuinely think that if you go to the US you have a high risk of being imprisoned without due process even if you you don't break any US law?

From what I understand, being arrested at the U.S. border while entering the country is strictly worse than being arrested by regular police while inside the U.S. In the latter case, the police arresting you will at least read you your Miranda rights, will have no right to search your phone unless authorized by a warrant, and will generally offer bail to get out of the jail in exchange for a court appearance. That's…

ICE is already kidnapping people from inside the US and shipping them to El Salvador without even the barest pretense of due process.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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post #175

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I travel quite a bit, and there are only 2 places on Earth where I was close to a shooting happening in real time: São Paulo, Brazil, and Oakland, California. As much as the scenarios can be rare, there is an undeniable sense of everything hanging by a thin thread when traveling around the USA, which I've only experienced in Latin American countries in all my trips. Giving that I'm originally from Brazil even though…

I travel even more than you and only got robbed twice in 40 years on earth: in Johannesburg, South Africa and Stockholm, Sweden. You can claim it's rare, but it happened on 100% of my trips to Sweden. Therefore, I will never travel back to Sweden. It's just not worth it and I have no idea what could happen (stabbing? murder?). Nothing in Sweden is worth the absolute fear this country provokes.

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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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This is not really... what you expect it is, I think. There are more people killed in mass shootings in the USA every year than there have been people killed in attacks during Christmas in Europe, like, ever.

People buy lottery tickets knowing very well they are almost certainly not going to win. But you never know. You might get rich. You buy the ticket is the prize is tempting enough. Likewise, you avoid a low probability risk when the outcome is bad enough.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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It makes sense if you view it as an intentional effort to demonize the US. Terrorizing visiting tourists is a great way to get the “we are crazy, your best never come here” message out. The simplest explanation is that this administration wants the US to be hated and sees atrocities as an important tool in that effort.

> The simplest explanation is that this administration wants the US to be hated Why would they want that?

Perhaps because they know it wouldn't matter.

It's not like there is a ready drop in replacement for things people desire from the US.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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post #452

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I'd like to provide a counterargument that it's not "iffy" to detain and question people who you're not sure sure should be allowed into the country at a point of entry, and that basically every country on the planet does it. Non-citizens at US points of entry have very limited constitutional protection. SCOTUS has consistently held that the federal government has broad authority over immigration and border control.…

It's probably more like "your first sentence doesn't address the GP's situation at all, so the rest of the post is just gonna be grandstanding without foundation". Which happens to be a correct assessment of your post. Specifically, "disappeared for a few days" is not at all what basically every country on the planet does.

I'm very clearly responding to the oversimplifying final sentence and I cited several instances where non-citizens can indeed be held for days without violating US laws.

The GP frames this as the US doing something nobody else does, which is objectively false, and even if his specific example is an egregious violation of someone's rights I'm sure if we looked through the last 25 years of immigration detentions for other countries we could pick out something equally upsetting from each one.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Why should US citizens deeply care about Canada? It's not their country, they don't live there. Don't tell me Canadians lose sleep thinking about the well being of US.

Ask that to the US companies that were relying on Canada, I suppose. A partnership goes both ways. Caring about a partner is caring about yourself.

Yes a businessman might care about his trade partner. I was asking why should Joe a Average from US care about Joe Average from Canada.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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post #471

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That's interesting, because when I learned English in school the pronoun for "a person whose gender isn't specified" was he.

Must have been a long time ago, because efforts to remove "he" as the default gender have been ongoing for years (80s?) and everybody has more or less settled on they rather than the awkward he/she.

You are in a bubble if you think that "everybody has […] settled on they".

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21179524

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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post #473

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Doesn't the crime rate go down when Republicans hold the power? I think the crime rate is a major concern for every tourist. Doesn't Florida have a much lower crime rate than California? As a tourist, I rather visit Florida than California.

I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not. I'll answer assuming it's in earnest. > Doesn't the crime rate go down when Republicans hold the power? Does it? And what about police brutality? As a tourist, I'd rather go to a country where I'm less likely to be treated badly by the police. > As a tourist, I rather visit Florida than California. I think this in general has very little to do with crime rates. There are confoun…

>Does it? And what about police brutality? As a tourist, I'd rather go to a country where I'm less likely to be treated badly by the police.

Why would the police treat you bad? I you don't commit any crime it's most likely you have nothing to do with the police.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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post #471

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That's interesting, because when I learned English in school the pronoun for "a person whose gender isn't specified" was he.

Must have been a long time ago, because efforts to remove "he" as the default gender have been ongoing for years (80s?) and everybody has more or less settled on they rather than the awkward he/she.

True, it was a long time ago. I studied English in high-school in the 90's.
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